RIP Sweden v3.2

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Re: RIP Sweden v3.2

Post by Charlar » Sat Jan 27, 2018 2:01 am

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It's a bit weird though when a guy conquers so much land and during and after those conquests no historian living in those places even mentions it. It's like somebody was to tell you about some Genghis Khan kinda motherfucker and how he conquered the USA in the fifties.
Didn't he only conquer part of the Arabic peninsula? The Byzantine/Eastern Roman Empire and the Sassanind Empire (Both governments and the empires population) were having a huge war during that time so wouldn't events in what they saw as a backwater filled with barbarians be considered as unimportant?
I'm not trying to argue but trying to deal with this confusion i'm having
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Re: RIP Sweden v3.2

Post by GodsGift » Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:52 am

Charlar wrote:
Sat Jan 27, 2018 2:01 am
Kugelfisch wrote:
Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:27 am
It's a bit weird though when a guy conquers so much land and during and after those conquests no historian living in those places even mentions it. It's like somebody was to tell you about some Genghis Khan kinda motherfucker and how he conquered the USA in the fifties.
Didn't he only conquer part of the Arabic peninsula? The Byzantine/Eastern Roman Empire and the Sassanind Empire (Both governments and the empires population) were having a huge war during that time so wouldn't events in what they saw as a backwater filled with barbarians be considered as unimportant?
I'm not trying to argue but trying to deal with this confusion i'm having
Edit: I didn't notice i reached 3000 posts two posts ago
Yeah according to the fables he unified Arabia conquering Oman and Yemen after conquering modern day Saudi Arabia. Still though I don't see anyway he was real.

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Re: RIP Sweden v3.2

Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:55 am

Charlar wrote:
Sat Jan 27, 2018 2:01 am
Didn't he only conquer part of the Arabic peninsula? The Byzantine/Eastern Roman Empire and the Sassanind Empire (Both governments and the empires population) were having a huge war during that time so wouldn't events in what they saw as a backwater filled with barbarians be considered as unimportant?
I'm not trying to argue but trying to deal with this confusion i'm having
Edit: I didn't notice i reached 3000 posts two posts ago
I dunno, seems even back then international trade was expansive enough that "Some guy with an original religion (do not steal) is conquering the shit out of anything he sees!" would make the rounds.

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Re: RIP Sweden v3.2

Post by Kugelfisch » Sat Jan 27, 2018 3:09 pm

It simply used to be a form of Christianity. Not everybody fancied the Catholic stuff about the trinity. They split off and because the Arabs always wanted to have their own religion of sorts they made up some dude. That's it. Jesus is Mohammad. It's just a title, nothing else. Eventually they pretended that it was a different person and made up some conquest story.
There is nothing in the history about a conquest because there never was a conquest. They just split off from the Catholic church.
Over the years tey refined their story, deleted multiple times everything that said something else and declared it heresy. After a couple of hundreds of years of doing that we're at the current situation.
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Re: RIP Sweden v3.2

Post by rabidtictac » Sat Jan 27, 2018 3:45 pm

The dustbowl religions love grandiose stories about conquerors and amazing kingdoms with sky-high wealth which the rest of the world has never fucking heard of.

In the archeological record, these legends have no substantiation.
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Post by Keith Chegwin » Sat Jan 27, 2018 3:59 pm

Even the historicity of Jesus is questionable.
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Post by da PAC Nigguh » Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:00 pm

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Re: RIP Sweden v3.2

Post by Kugelfisch » Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:19 pm

Keith Chegwin wrote:
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Even the historicity of Jesus is questionable.
Very much so. But in his case it doesn't matter as much.
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Re: RIP Sweden v3.2

Post by GodsGift » Sat Jan 27, 2018 5:48 pm

What evidence is there for most of the figures talked about in all of those Abrahamic religions? Last time I checked the evidence for the kingdom of David and of a unified kingdom as a whole before the Persians is laughable.

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Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Sat Jan 27, 2018 5:57 pm

That's really the main flaw with these works: It can get tricky figuring out what is myth, fiction, or actual historical stuff.
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