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Re: Russia

Post by Le Redditeur » Sat Apr 02, 2022 8:45 pm

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Plus the West has fearmongered over an invasion in the near future for months before it actually happened.
I know that. Meanwhile Putin was cynically sitting on conferences with the French and German official cucks with the stated objective of avoiding the very same war - that, by the way, he didn't start early because the real Barzini to his Tattaglia told him to wait for the Winter Olympics festivities to end. The war may not have been surprising, but it was a surprise start (not declaration, since of course technically they aren't even at war but on some sort of "armed defensive conflict", courtesy of years of US diplomacy doing exactly that to circumvent Congress).
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a plain and simple surprise war of aggression
Yeah, that's about the take you'd walk away with if you hadn't actually been paying attention.

Nothing about this was a surprise. It's been in the making since at least 2014
But then, I don't believe in war crimes. All is fair in love and war.
Of course you don't believe that war crimes are a bad thing; behaving like inhumane pigs on a battlefield is, after all, Germany's main cultural contribution since the Roman times at least. Fortunately it always ends up with something getting shoved up your (and specially your women's) asses at the end.

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Re: Russia

Post by rabidtictac » Sat Apr 02, 2022 9:45 pm

In Times of War, The Law Falls Silent

These and other life lessons brought to you courtesy of the less-shitty star trek.

All I see around me are globohomo shill news sources trying as hard as they can to proclaim Ukraine the winner. But facts don't care about your feelings. Russia has so many more resources that victory or defeat are not in question. The only question one need ask is whether Ukraine will capitulate to Putin's demands before or after their cities are all reduced to rubble.
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Re: Russia

Post by Le Redditeur » Sat Apr 02, 2022 10:21 pm

I don't think Russia wohld stop even if Ukraine had capitulated to everything. The goal since day one was full annexation. You only have to listen to Putin's rambles at the time to realize that. Unfortunately for Ukraine, they never had a single chance, not after their air force got neutralized on day one, and no amount of social media coping from bugmen and mega corporations was going to change the fact. And of course their dear leader decided to play hero using them as cannon fodder.

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Re: Russia

Post by veris leta facies » Sat Apr 02, 2022 10:46 pm

This is what will happen if you allow Russia to conquer your territories.
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Of course you don't believe that war crimes are a bad thing; behaving like inhumane pigs on a battlefield is, after all, Germany's main cultural contribution since the Roman times at least. Fortunately it always ends up with something getting shoved up your (and specially your women's) asses at the end.
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It doesn't surprise me at all that kugel has such opinions, sometimes he is able to keep his retardation in check probably with his retardation-control meds, sometimes not so much. But he's a German and he has been raised and brainwashed into the rottest society in Europe. Throughout his life he has been taught to hate himself, "Selbsthass" is the German term, it affects all Germans on some level, at least subconsciously. Germans are used to seeing Russia as a great conqueror, russians raped virtually the whole of Germany after World War II and Germans still see Russia as the great Daddy who will one day arrive and rape the country once again. It's obvious why kugel feels affinity with rats like tictac who suck Putin's dick, they have the same cowardly and submissive worldview, if Russia invades your country, you must surrender immediately! Fucking pathetic.
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Re: Russia

Post by McGinnis » Sat Apr 02, 2022 10:47 pm

Le Redditeur wrote:
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The goal since day one was full annexation.
Putin does not want full annexation. Full annexation requires too much work, money and manpower to control the Western Ukrainians, who are not Russian and don't want to be Russian. Remember that Russian military isn't what it was in 1979, or even in 1990. They cannot afford another Afghanistan

What Putin wants, at best, is to Balkanise Ukraine. Russians get the Eastern half and Crimea, which has always been Russian. The Western half can go to Poland or somebody

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Re: Russia

Post by Kugelfisch » Sat Apr 02, 2022 10:55 pm

Le Redditeur wrote:
Sat Apr 02, 2022 8:45 pm
Of course you don't believe that war crimes are a bad thing; behaving like inhumane pigs on a battlefield is, after all, Germany's main cultural contribution since the Roman times at least. Fortunately it always ends up with something getting shoved up your (and specially your women's) asses at the end.
Stay mad, fucker. Faggot bullshit like your meaningless whining is what got the West and your arse end backwater banana republic into trouble in the first place.
Kill the men, kill the women, kill the children, bomb hospitals and fucking everything.
Half measures are only ever going to bite you in the ass.

We fucked Rome so hard we killed the most common language and took their name. You may not like it but brute force is king.
For kikes you'd actually agree, wouldn't you?

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Re: Russia

Post by McGinnis » Sat Apr 02, 2022 10:57 pm

veris leta facies wrote:
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This is what will happen if you allow Russia to conquer your territories
I'm confused. According to you Russians are getting beaten badly and the sanctions are causing the country to collapse and the people to turn on Putin. Now you say they're conquering territories. Which is it?
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It's obvious why kugel feels affinity with rats like tictac who suck Putin's dick, they have the same cowardly and submissive worldview, if Russia invades your country, you must surrender immediately! Fucking pathetic.
When are you signing up to fight?

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Re: Russia

Post by mad bum » Sun Apr 03, 2022 12:59 am

They're taking volunteers! Die for Ukraine bigot.
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Re: Russia

Post by rabidtictac » Sun Apr 03, 2022 2:58 am

veris leta facies wrote:
Sat Apr 02, 2022 10:46 pm

It doesn't surprise me at all that kugel has such opinions, sometimes he is able to keep his retardation in check probably with his retardation-control meds, sometimes not so much. But he's a German and he has been raised and brainwashed into the rottest society in Europe. Throughout his life he has been taught to hate himself, "Selbsthass" is the German term, it affects all Germans on some level, at least subconsciously. Germans are used to seeing Russia as a great conqueror, russians raped virtually the whole of Germany after World War II and Germans still see Russia as the great Daddy who will one day arrive and rape the country once again. It's obvious why kugel feels affinity with rats like tictac who suck Putin's dick, they have the same cowardly and submissive worldview, if Russia invades your country, you must surrender immediately! Fucking pathetic.
Bro, you're the one tard raging here. Ukraine can't win unless Russia gives up and decides to take a massive L on the world stage, eat all the sanctions and get no benefit. The sanctions are already out there. Putin doesn't have a lot left to lose.
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Also, despite claims Ukraine is winning, that's clearly not the case. They can't win because of the logistics of the warfare. Russia controls the skies and no NATO country has stood up to contest their air superiority. With said air superiority, Russia can do whatever they want, whenever they want. Ukraine is a neighbor too, so there's no issue with planes not being able to refuel or Ukraine using natural geography and long distances to drag out the war. They even have Ukraine surrounded geographically. The only way Ukraine can drag it out is by feeding troops into the meat grinder and refusing to surrender. Which they are doing.

Russia could take 80% of their country's bomber force and fly it over Ukraine, and just bomb the shit back to the stone age. Bomb every thing, every person, every structure, until it's all gone. Leave the farmsteads and level the cities.

And if a NATO ally does get directly involved in fighting the war, that means nuclear war.

I don't think you can fucking conceive of how bad shit can get. You look at the current atrocities and think they're so terrible. Bruh. Imagine 100 times worse than that. Or 1000 times. Imagine radioactive fallout spread across the globe, every major city on the planet struck by a nuke, imagine nukes with many, many times more potency than the ones dropped on Nagasaki and Hiroshima (which were basically prototypes.) Imagine not just streets full of dead people, but entire countries of corpses.

Is it worth it to risk damn near every human being who is alive now and will be alive in the future, for the sake of Ukraine?

Russia invading Ukraine is also not the same as Russia invading Great Britain, America, Germany or whatever other first world western nation. Because, as mentioned, Ukraine is not part of NATO and is not a major nuclear power. If Putin does invade one of those countries, he's toasted and he knows it. I'm not saying he would never try, but he'd have to be delusional to think it could work. Conventional wars of conquest can only succeed against countries without nuclear strike capability.
Ukraine should surrender. Why? Because they can't win without a miracle. And every day they don't surrender is another day that the atrocities you are so angry about will continue, unabated. There are no good choices here and there is no miracle ending to this story. Sooner or later, we will either get World War Three or Ukraine will surrender anyway. Russia should easily have enough resources to keep fighting this war long past the point where most Ukrainian soldiers will just starve to death.
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Re: Russia

Post by RAPEMAN » Sun Apr 03, 2022 6:16 am

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Wow, Based Finland beat the Turks. I guess they are a nation of Mongolians.
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