Star Dreck

[Keith Chegwin]

I was gonna say. Most burgers didn't watch Enterprise because it was on UPN

[Kugelfisch]

Doesn't ring a bell. In Krautland it was on free-TV while you'd have to pay for STD.

[Keith Chegwin]

UPN was free, at least I think, but it was generally associated with low-budget, low quality programming. They basically set themselves up as the black people channel so I don't really see why a bunch of honkies would tune just to watch fucking Enterprise

[Rushy]

Did people ever really hate Enterprise? I think most just found it pretty mediocre. Voyager is usually the show that gets the most shit.

Voyager had the advantage of still feeding off of TNG nostalgia. The viewers were at least familiar with the setting. The ones who couldn't connect with Enterprise had nothing else to latch onto.

[Rushy]

Another benefit Enterprise had was that it still knew how to Star Trek. The captain was the protagonist, the crew had recognisable personalities(Discovery has that asshole Burnham and... Spocklite alien. And anxiety girl. And gay engineer dude) plus it functioned as a prequel. They set up the Federation and the necessity for the Prime Directive remarkably well.

[Guest]

UPN was free, at least I think, but it was generally associated with low-budget, low quality programming. They basically set themselves up as the black people channel so I don't really see why a bunch of honkies would tune just to watch fucking Enterprise

Hey, Homeboys In Outer Space was quality television.

[VoiceOfReasonPast]

No way would indians still exist for more than a generation in a world where you can just replicate booze out of nowhere.

I think it was the TNG episode 'Family' where Picard's brother gives him a bottle of wine from their vineyard and mentions the replicator 'Synthohol' is less intoxicating than real alcohol. I daresay it'd be better for your liver as well, not that cirrhosis would be a problem with the medical treatments they've got in the 24th century.

Sisko's dad also didn't think highly of replicators. Then again he ran a restaurant.

And even the 23th century let you regrow kidneys with a pill. I'd the the only types of liver failure you'd have to worry about are disruptor-induced.

Another benefit Enterprise had was that it still knew how to Star Trek. The captain was the protagonist, the crew had recognisable personalities(Discovery has that asshole Burnham and... Spocklite alien. And anxiety girl. And gay engineer dude) plus it functioned as a prequel. They set up the Federation and the necessity for the Prime Directive remarkably well.

Definitely a better prequel than that other show. Also dug their ship's interior being like halfway between NASA and TOS.

Also, in TNG season 2 they established that you can use the transporter to reverse aging. Later episodes just ignore that since it breaks everything.

There's a lot of show-breaking crap like that in season 2, and it usually involves Dr. Pulaski.
Like her being able to fix Geordi's eyes or her ability to selectively erase memories.

If only they'd waited a couple more years to introuce Dr. Mary Suelaski.

[Guest]

Yes, UPN (United Paramount Network) was a free, over the air network. Basically the only show they had that anyone cared about was Star Trek: Voyager. It eventually merged with The WB network to become The CW, home of interchangeable woke DC Super Hero shows where everyone is gay and constantly mentions the fact that they are gay. (Did you know that these characters are gay? Better have two dudes make out multiple times in an episode because someone might not pick up on subtle hints.)

After UPN failed, some idiot thought that they should once again have a network with only a single Star Trek show but this time its a streaming service that people have to pay money for: CBS All Access.

Kate Mulgrew (Capt. Janeway) is bitter that Jeri Ryan was invited back for Star Trek Picard and she wasn't. She said that the original Star Trek was sexist. She famously resented Jeri Ryan when she was added to Voyager and eventually refused to shoot scenes together with her. (The editors had to make it appear they were in the same room when their characters were supposed to appear together.)

[VoiceOfReasonPast]

What a pleasant actress to work with. I really have to wonder why Janeway's never considered the best Trek captain...

[Guest]

They set up the Federation and the necessity for the Prime Directive remarkably well.

Let's not go too far. They spent most of the show fucking around with the "Temporal Cold War" that wasn't really a cold war in any sense.