Star Whores: Diverse Agenda

[VoiceOfReasonPast]

And Voice, it's far from guilty pleasure as well. It's not a series of movies that's just made as something fun to enjoy as you go along.

You could technically go guilty pleasure in a "I know these movies are bad, buuuuuut~..." kind of way.

[Kugelfisch]

But what? What's good about them? Because there are explosions in it? TLJ is much too long and much too boring as well.
They aren't The Room, which is technically bad on all levels of cinematography but in actuality a riot. It's not Belly of the Beast, which is largely boring but has scenes that will have you in belly aches from laughing. It's not even Kindergarten Cop, which is just fucking attrocious but at least has Schwarzenegger and the fantastic line:


It's way too convoluted and just plain confusing for just popcorn cinema without even knowing Star Wars. TLJ is this:

[Keith Chegwin]

It's not even Kindergarten Cop, which is just fucking attrocious but at least has Schwarzenegger and the fantastic line:

How dare you. Kindergarten Cop is not bad at all

[Charlar]

It's not even Kindergarten Cop, which is just fucking attrocious but at least has Schwarzenegger and the fantastic line:

How dare you. Kindergarten Cop is not bad at all

Well it's certainly not of Arnie best, at least it's Junior (whoever thought up thst movie was/is messed up)

[Charlar]

But what? What's good about them? Because there are explosions in it? TLJ is much too long and much too boring as well.
They aren't The Room, which is technically bad on all levels of cinematography but in actuality a riot. It's not Belly of the Beast, which is largely boring but has scenes that will have you in belly aches from laughing. It's not even Kindergarten Cop, which is just fucking attrocious but at least has Schwarzenegger and the fantastic line:


It's way too convoluted and just plain confusing for just popcorn cinema without even knowing Star Wars. TLJ is this:

I don't, i thought TFA and Rogue Onr were tolerable, i mean at least i kind of cared what was going on and didn't feel like ragequitting. I guess i just read Old EU stuff that was so much worse that they in comparison just feel like tolerable shlock, i'm seriously not trying to defend them

[Kugelfisch]

Try to imagine you know nothing about SW. Now imagine TLJ. What a fucking mess. Who are those people? What are jedi and why are they important? As long as the movie is, it doesn't bother at all explaining the First Order or whatever, nor the Republic. Instead it goes to some casino planet. What?

[da PAC Nigguh]

Imagine if there had been no Original Trilogy. Say Lucas decided to start the "saga" with the prequels in the late 90s. No one would have even tolerated The Phantom Menace. It would have been a Valerian or John Carter-level bomb and that would have been the beginning and end of Star Wars.

This entire franchise is still just riding on the good will of the Original Trilogy.

[Kugelfisch]

Exactly what I'm saying. And even with the OT context, the prequels weren't any good. Not then, not a while after and certainly not now. I don't take that Razorfag kinda apologism about how people loved them but then along came big bad RLM to form opinions. People hated Ep1. They were hopeful for Ep2 and that still was shit. What was it that people told everyone? What did media desperately spew about Ep3? That is was darker. Fucking "darker" was the selling point. Nobody said "good", nobody said "fantastic". The selling point was "At least it's not as shit as the first two movies" and even that claim was proven to be dubious at best. People didn't like the prequels even then. Had it not been for the OG trilogy they would've gone into the trash entierly.

[da PAC Nigguh]

This "everyone loved the prequels until RLM" shit is some of the dumbest crap anyone has ever come up with. People shit on Phantom Menace almost right away. I remember sitting in the theater for Episode II when it first came out and hearing people talk about how it better not have all the stupid shit Episode I had like Jar Jar.

Well, we got entirely different stupid shit instead like CGI diner greaseball and "around the survivors a perimeter create".

[Charlar]

This "everyone loved the prequels until RLM" shit is some of the dumbest crap anyone has ever come up with. People shit on Phantom Menace almost right away. I remember sitting in the theater for Episode II when it first came out and hearing people talk about how it better not have all the stupid shit Episode I had like Jar Jar.

Well, we got entirely different stupid shit instead like CGI diner greaseball and "around the survivors a perimeter create".

You fotgot the romance that rivals Twilight in how shit it was