Non-cape tv show

[Kugelfisch]

>it's not a good twin peaks show
Pretty much. It's fine that the show's whole point is that TV is terrible and Twin Peaks can't be brought back. I still didn't like it.
At no moment does The Return capture the feeling, the mood of Twin Peaks.

[Rushy]

At no moment does The Return capture the feeling, the mood of Twin Peaks.

I'd say there's a few snippets where it does, mainly with the old cast. Bobby's melodramatic crying at Laura's picture fits right in. Everything with the Log Lady too. But it doesn't last.

[Lindsay's Liver]

My summary of the basic narrative of "TP: The Return":

Agent Cooper is a man split into multiple parts, good, evil, and gluttonous (Dougie). The universe wants him to become whole again while his evil side works against that. Meanwhile his purely good side has a plan to save the long-dead Laura Palmer.

The deeper subtext:

"TP: The Return" is a man born in 1946 (David Lynch) commenting on cynical modern times. The mood in the town of Twin Peaks is uglier and bleaker overall. The new characters tend to live in shabby mobile homes. The sons and daughters of the old characters haven't turned out well. There are positive moments (Norma and Ed, Nadine, Ben Horne seemingly completely reformed), but the town is intentionally not portrayed with much charm.

Lynch is old enough to remember when people were optimistic about the future. To people in the 1950s, the 21st century was going to be some crazy utopia.

Now we are in the 21st century and no one feels good about the future anymore. We all think it's going to be fucked up. Dystopia has set in.

How did we get here?

"TP: The Return" proposes an answer and it's not "old man yells at clouds" shit. It's bigger than that.

It's the atomic bomb.

The invention of the bomb kicked off a gradual decay in values and optimism that has effected every aspect of modern life

Would we be living in Utopia if the bomb never happened? It's not that simple, which is sort of what the final episode is about. Cooper has gone to the past and saved Laura,, but the results of that aren't necessarily positive, in a Butterfly Effect way.

My interpretation of the final scene is that it's a little apocalypse. Everything ends. When the screen cuts to black, that literally happened in the world of the series. Everything is gone

[Kugelfisch]

That's a viable interpretation.

[Rushy]

I rewatched the ending of Blake's 7. It's still my favourite finale to a show ever. Aside from the balls it has to kill the entire cast off and say 'fuck you, the bad guys win', I love the parallels going on between Blake and Avon. They've both been driven to the absolute edge.

Avon's desperate and so his pragmatism has surrendered to an innate need to reunite with his friend Blake as he was - the idealistic hero who could take over and fix everything.

Blake's desperate and so his idealism has surrendered to an innate need to reunite with his friend Avon as he was - the pragmatic cynic who is smart enough to save Blake's rebellion and help him fix everything.

And when they finally reunite after two fucking seasons of build-up, and Avon has that tragic moment where he believes Blake has betrayed the group, he snaps. His faith in humanity dies and he pulls the trigger on Blake.

And then the group are killed off one by one.

And then we end on Avon surrounded by enemy troopers. Those brilliant jumpcuts. One last ironic smile to the camera. Cut to fucking credits.

Masterpiece.

[Rushy]

Paul Darrow as Avon was the coolest cat who ever lived. A godly combination of Tywin Lannister and space cowboy.

[VoiceOfReasonPast]

Ruining your funShow

What are the odds of this getting a Current Year reboot after there is nothing more left of Doctor Who to defile?
You'd think they'd be all over a series about heroic freedom fighters resisting against a fascist regime.

[Rushy]

The BBC seem content to let it fall into obscurity so I'm not too worried.

If they did, it'd be very funny though. The old show went to great lengths to paint the crew as being fairly unpleasant people in the conventional sense - they're escaped prisoners like in Farscape, but in this case, locked up for legitimate reasons.

Would the BBC really want thieves, killers, mercenaries and psychopaths representing their agenda- on second thought you may be right.

[VoiceOfReasonPast]

Just make Avon a Pajeet who stabbed pregnant women for fun. The audience will love him.

[Rushy]

This intellectual banter puts the Star Trek briefing scenes to shame. Fuck, the writing was good then.