Russia

[veris leta facies]

Russia must lose this war.

Are you ready for a world where SJWs and Redditors think they achieved what Napoleon and Hitler could not?

You do realize if the Russians lose, you're next right?

What the fuck are you talking about? If Russia wins this war and Ukraine becomes another Belarus, Putin won't stop there and it's only a question of time when Russia starts another conflict with its neighbouring country, next time it might very well be my country.

Veris has severe copium.

Kreml shill raus. Time to use the ignore feature first time on this forum. Yes, it's a shitposting forum, but there's a limit to everything, I'm not watching this fucking idiot anymore.

[McGinnis]

Kreml shill raus. Time to use the ignore feature first time on this forum. Yes, it's a shitposting forum, but there's a limit to everything, I'm not watching this fucking idiot anymore.

Pussy

If you seriously believe that the Russian invasion of Ukraine is a failure and that Russia must lose, by all means go there. Pick up a gun and go fight them yourself

[rabidtictac]

Russia isn't going to lose. That would be like the US losing to Mexico. I wouldn't trust a NATO source. All of the mainstream media has been focused on reports of Russian losses, often coming from Ukrainian official sources. There's a pretty obvious bias. The first casualty of war is always the truth. Both sides are painting their warriors as ever-victorious heroes and the opposition as losers. But we can see which country is plainly stronger. Even if Russia is "losing," all they have to do to correct the loss is bring in a larger percentage of their military might.

No, the only way Russia "lose" is if they give up. Which is what Ukraine desperately wants to happen. This is why they have a vested interest in running story after story about Russian losses and Ukrainian victories, and trying to draw other countries into the war in hopes Putin will back down.

That doesn't mean Russian sources are reliable. They are also lying shitheels. But western sources are often treated as somehow more credible, and that isn't always the case. Even in the situations where the reporters might be technically telling the truth (maybe some individual convoy of russkies got wiped out,) they deliberately omit the larger picture (how many more convoys Russia has compared to Ukraine's military strength.)

Russia isn't the one losing territory. Russia isn't the one losing civilians to bombing. Russia isn't worried about losing its sovereignty to Ukraine. Nor is Russia overly concerned their capital city will be overwhelmed. The facts are clear and we can see which side is winning. It's just taking Russia a lot longer than anyone expected.

[McGinnis]

Whoa, careful with that logic there, tictac. Veris might ignore you to death

No, the only way Russia "lose" is if they give up. Which is what Ukraine desperately wants to happen. This is why they have a vested interest in running story after story about Russian losses and Ukrainian victories, and trying to draw other countries into the war in hopes Putin will back down.

Problem with the US/Globalist response is that now the Russians can't afford to back down. They've been sanctioned up the ass, they've had their foreign assets effectively stolen, they've banned Russian athletes and celebrities, Russian art, music, literature and culture and pretty much anything with the words 'Russia' or 'Russian' in it.

They have to go for glory now otherwise the entire effort will not have been worth it. Of course, Russians have superior forces so there's no rush to end the war. But, if there were, you'd just see them level Ukraine entirely. Which they are perfectly capable of doing

[rabidtictac]

I think the most damning evidence that Russia will win is their air dominance. Now, I know that a mistake many generals historically make is trying to fight the current war with tactics learned in the last one. However, assuming no meaningful advancement in technology which would radically change the way wars are fought, control over the air is a decisive advantage. Ukraine has been crying, screaming and begging for other nations to implement a no-fly zone over Ukraine for them. This is a tacit admission that Russia controls the skies, which we already know anyway, based on reports of wanton destruction and bombings. Civilians are not even safe walking down the street in their own cities.

Whatever one might say about Russia, its fighter planes are no slouches. And in a war waged against such a close neighbor, there's no debate about whether or not Russia can effectively bring their full air power to bear upon Ukraine. I agree that Putin is unlikely to back down, especially as Zelenskyy has not offered anything to him he wants. Ukraine has nothing to bargain with, which is a further proof of their military inferiority. If they were really winning, they would have a strong position at the bargaining table and Putin would be looking for a graceful exit that would let him keep his dignity. That isn't happening because Ukraine isn't winning. Ukraine will lose and be absorbed. The only question is how many will die without surrendering before this happens.

[McGinnis]

Zelenskyy won't negotiate because the US won't allow him to. The US have made it very clear that this is their proxy war with Russia and Ukraine must be sacrificed. Zelenskyy even went on CNN and admitted that the US and NATO officials told him outright that 'Ukraine won't be accepted into NATO' but that he was told to keep that under his hat and not say anything publicly because they wanted Russia to believe Ukraine would be accepted to provoke them into starting a conflict

[AdorableOtter]

>very lettuce REEEEing over WEF wrestling show while the western world is legit taking itself apart from inside

Come on, man. You can do better than that.

[Le Redditeur]

Russia will get their acres of indefensible Ukrainian land, for the glory of Putin and the USSR, and all they'll have to pay for it is their fucking country crashing into the ground and then drilling itself further. Hope its all worth, Vlad.

[McGinnis]

I really wouldn't count on Russia crashing into the ground. They have their own food, they have their own fuel, Ukraine is a massive breadbasket rich with natural resources most of which have been untouched by the fighting, and despite the punitive measures the West have tried to impose upon Putin for this war, they still need to buy Putin's oil which gives him a lot of hand in their negotiations.

I'd be more concerned about America crashing into the ground

Hope its all worth, Vlad.

It is, yes

To us, this is a war of choice, like Iraq. To them this is a war of necessity, like World War II.

[Newhalf]

Whoah there, comrade. You surely mean special military operations.
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