Capeshit thread (comics and movies)

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Post by Guest » Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:18 am

I like how Peter Parker is always just Spider-Man and they have to specify Miles Morales by his civilian name.

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Post by Guest » Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:38 am

It's kinda like they have no real charater to them other then being "Black Spider-Man".... BUT THATS JUST RACISM!!!!! :evil:
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Post by Guest » Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:21 am

See, this is what happens when, instead of creating your own fucking characters, you try to race swap beloved existing characters for woke diversity points

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Post by Guest » Sat Dec 18, 2021 7:34 am

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Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:21 am
See, this is what happens when, instead of creating your own fucking characters, you try to race swap beloved existing characters for woke diversity points
Miles Morales was a new character. Ultimate Spiderman died for some dumb reason and Miles was a young black man who stole Ultimate Peter's equipment.

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Post by Guest » Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:22 am

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Miles Morales was a new character
No he wasn't. You're misunderstanding my point. The guy under the suit might be a 'new' character but at the end of the day he's just Spider-Man, but black

Compare him to Spawn, or Black Panther, Luke Cage or Blade, who are entirely original black characters

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Post by Guest » Sat Dec 18, 2021 9:26 am

Miles was pretty much created to replace Parker in the Ultimate universe. But then the Ultimate line got discontinued, so they kept shoving Spider-Man Black into the mainline titles because he was the writer's pet.

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Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:31 pm

I think at first the Ultimate Universe wasn't supposed to go on for as long as it did, but then it became popular until hack writers made it FUBAR. Probably didn't help that this universe had actual permadeath, and every big dumb crossover event had the body count of a slasher flick.
Before axing it completely they decided to do a big dumb crossover even with the main Universe, which allowed them to port over anything they actually wanted to keep from the Ultimate Universe (including Miles Morales and Nick Fury of Color).
Now the problem was that you had two Spider-Mans. They could've probably given him the Scarlet Spider name (a klessik reference to that other time we had two Spider-Mans), but Marvel prefers to give that title to Kaine instead, and they probably thought this would be problematic. After all, not calling him "Spider-Man" would imply that he is inferior to Peter Parker or something. Though apparently some spin-off material calls him "Kid Arachnid" and/or "Spin" to tell them apart.
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Post by Le Redditeur » Sat Dec 18, 2021 3:38 pm

VoiceOfReasonPast wrote:
Sat Dec 18, 2021 2:31 pm
(all that crap about multiple universes and crossovers and "porting" different versions if the same tired character)
Even the worst shounenshit like Naruto or Bleach or Fairy Tail aren't as convoluted, retarded, and tryhard as the modern comic. Jeez ir sucks.

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Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:13 pm

It helps that shounenshit generally only has one writer.
With Marvel you have the problem that their continuity is convoluted and they never actually rebooted anything, so whenever they derail a character they have to come up with even more convoluted ways to fix it. Both Iron Man and Captain America had to be replaced at least once by a younger version from an alternate timeline.
DC on the other hand has a "Crisis" reboot about every other year, except it's always some kind of half-reboot where the major events of the past still happened, but probably not even hardcore fans could tell you the specifics (not sure how Blackest Night happened in the New 52 continuity considering most of the capeshit zombies in this story were zombies of people that never existed in the New 53 timeline).
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Re: Capeshit thread (comics and movies)

Post by Guest » Sat Dec 18, 2021 5:28 pm

Modern capeshit, especially Marvel, is just glorified ads for the movies. And then they wonder why they keep being outsold by manga.

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