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Post by rabidtictac » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:12 am

One thing I really love about the world of the Witcher is it has its own identity. It's hard to describe what makes the game world interesting. Generally, characters wear period-appropriate garb rather than generic fantasy bullshit. You see a lot of tunics and gambesons, and combinations of mail and/or brigandine padded by cloth underneath. It's a very small thing, I suppose, but the overall effect is the world in these games feels like a real place. Towns have local economies and schedules. People move around and interact. I shat on the gameplay for being primitive, but you do feel like you are "playing a role" of the traveling exterminator. You negotiate payment, investigate monsters and devise the means to bring their populations back down to manageable levels.

You can get skill upgrades that fix a lot of my earlier complaints about combat. You can eliminate the backstab damage buff enemies get and you can upgrade Quen to make it even more OP. Armor and weapon upgrades are also more sparse and feel a bit like they would in monster hunter. Getting a new armor set or a new good weapon is a big deal in these games, and well worth spending $3000 or whatever ridiculous sum at first seems too pricy. You have a lot of viable weapon options to shoot for, but can generally only afford to chase one unless you want to grind for hours. So you have to make choices. It's pretty typical to get a new weapon or armor set and have it remain the best available for 10-20 hours.

Overall, I just can't think of too many games that have the same feel as the witcher does. I did read one of the short story collections. I have heard the translation loses a lot, but I still felt the storytelling was excellent. The prose is more than competent and the depictions of classical fairy tales and fantasy tropes are some of the most entertaining I've seen. I especially like the way the witcher depicts elves as a cross between angry mudslimes and native americans.
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Re: What are you playing?

Post by Some Sick Fuck » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:48 am

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Overall, I just can't think of too many games that have the same feel as the witcher does. I did read one of the short story collections. I have heard the translation loses a lot, but I still felt the storytelling was excellent. The prose is more than competent and the depictions of classical fairy tales and fantasy tropes are some of the most entertaining I've seen.
You make me proud. Finally some good taste!

The best decision they made with those games was trying to follow books rather closely. The witcher lore is strong. While they steal from it a bit too much in W1 and W3 (extreme amout of references and optional missions being based on some of the stort stories, or just characters Geralt met in books), W2 is in my opinion the most unique game of the series, and the one that at the same time tries to emulate Sapkowski's writing and ideas the most. It doesn't do it too well, but it's a good effort.
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I especially like the way the witcher depicts elves as a cross between angry mudslimes and native americans.
:lol: They are a bit like terrorists of the Witcher world, and one of the short stories (The Edge of the World) has one of the best conversation pieces (that I've seen in a book) with them.
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Re: What are you playing?

Post by AngrySpoonySnob » Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:54 pm

the witcher series is the most overrated trash in gaming off all time you circlejerking fags
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Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:24 pm

The whole "people wear armor that does not look retarded" reminds me of The Dark Eye (aka Germany's answer to D&D), though that setting has some additional retardation to make up for it (like how Not-France has to use elongated, boxy crossbows because the writers don't want gunpowder weapons in a setting that is technologically advanced enough to make them).
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Re: What are you playing?

Post by rabidtictac » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:03 pm

Some Sick Fuck wrote:
Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:48 am
rabidtictac wrote:
Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:12 am
Overall, I just can't think of too many games that have the same feel as the witcher does. I did read one of the short story collections. I have heard the translation loses a lot, but I still felt the storytelling was excellent. The prose is more than competent and the depictions of classical fairy tales and fantasy tropes are some of the most entertaining I've seen.
You make me proud. Finally some good taste!

The best decision they made with those games was trying to follow books rather closely. The witcher lore is strong. While they steal from it a bit too much in W1 and W3 (extreme amout of references and optional missions being based on some of the stort stories, or just characters Geralt met in books), W2 is in my opinion the most unique game of the series, and the one that at the same time tries to emulate Sapkowski's writing and ideas the most. It doesn't do it too well, but it's a good effort.
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I especially like the way the witcher depicts elves as a cross between angry mudslimes and native americans.
:lol: They are a bit like terrorists of the Witcher world, and one of the short stories (The Edge of the World) has one of the best conversation pieces (that I've seen in a book) with them.
SHIT! FUCK! Now I know my taste has been corrupted! Your bad taste is infecting me! Dammit, get that ass banned before you destroy us all and make us like Far Cry and AssCreed.

Witcher 2 is an odd game in terms of structure. At first it seems extremely linear and small. Areas are small and you spend a lot of time in cutscenes. But then you start opening up side missions and realize that these tiny areas are jam-packed with shit to do.

Something else I appreciate about Witcher 2 is it often gives you a goal or mission without telling you how to complete it. Even the quest log won't say exactly what to do. It might say to question people about a location. But it won't tell you who to question. It might say to exterminate a monster, but won't tell you what you need in order to do that. I'm still trying to figure out how I'm supposed to use harpy traps to destroy harpy nests. DAMMIT YOU FUCKERS WHY CAN'T I TURN MY BRAIN OFF AND FOLLOW A MARKER LIKE SKYRIM

Witcher 2 feels like its own game. It references the literature and is true to portrayals from the books (like elves and dandilion,) but its story is self-contained. I thought the troll missions were some of the best so far, since they capture the fairy tail feel of the short stories without ripping them off.

Oh yeah, the edge of the world. That story is the standout from The Last Wish. I was really impressed. I don't know how the translation changed the dialogue, but the conversations are really fucking sharp.
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Re: What are you playing?

Post by rabidtictac » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:06 pm

VoiceOfReasonPast wrote:
Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:24 pm
The whole "people wear armor that does not look retarded" reminds me of The Dark Eye (aka Germany's answer to D&D), though that setting has some additional retardation to make up for it (like how Not-France has to use elongated, boxy crossbows because the writers don't want gunpowder weapons in a setting that is technologically advanced enough to make them).
The technology in Witcher is fixed around the 15th century, at least in the games. Crossbows, Ballistae, Catapults, longswords, plate armor, mail+brigandine, arming sword and shield, etc are the primary weapons seen in the game.

Geralt's choice to carry only a sword kind of makes sense in this context, since it's a longsword and he's wearing a coat of mail/brigandine with padding. He seems to be wearing about the most you could expect a civilian to carry comfortably.
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Re: What are you playing?

Post by Some Sick Fuck » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:06 pm

rabidtictac wrote:
Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:03 pm
SHIT! FUCK! Now I know my taste has been corrupted! Your bad taste is infecting me! Dammit, get that ass banned before you destroy us all and make us like Far Cry and AssCreed.
But the new Far Cry and Asscreed look good :lol: Be happy, otherwise you would end up hating almost everything like Spoony.
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I'm still trying to figure out how I'm supposed to use harpy traps to destroy harpy nests. DAMMIT YOU FUCKERS WHY CAN'T I TURN MY BRAIN OFF AND FOLLOW A MARKER LIKE SKYRIM
I can't be certain, because it's been a while, but I think you might need to put down the trap so the harpies carry them back to the nest. Maybe it's not so elaborate (or even more, there might be only certain place where you can put them down), but I do remember it being retarded in a way that it doesn't explain anything to you and what you have to do is one time thing in game. Or maybe you just haven't found the place with the nests, either way, I do remember it being confusing.

As for the tech, it is as far as I remember perhaps a bit more elaborate than books, but in a good way. Witcher universe has the distinct feeling of medieval times with current thinking (or 30 years ago, since the first stories are much older).
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Re: What are you playing?

Post by rabidtictac » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:24 pm

I think I do need to trap the harpies with them. I've rubbed my crotch all over the harpy nest locations and it won't let me have a prompt to put down the trap.

I will stand behind saying this game is buggy though. I won a game of dice poker that was supposed to give me a sword, and the game bugged out and didn't give me the sword. It was a one-time reward and now I have to either reload a save or never get the sword. I looked it up and it's a known bug. Fuck it, I'll get a better sword later.
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Re: What are you playing?

Post by Some Sick Fuck » Wed Aug 09, 2017 11:32 pm

I'm pretty sure you need to somehow make them bring the bombs back to the nest, it is not for trapping them, despite what it says - that might be the root of the confusion, unlike other traps, this one isn't for catching anything, but it's pretty much just a bomb with a lure. Try to equip it or something and place it down in the mines.

As for bugs, that's unfortunate. I don't remember running into anything significant, but it's been a long time, so chances are, if nothing terrible happened to me, I just forgot about it. It clearly isn't the most polished game.
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Re: What are you playing?

Post by Kugelfisch » Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:31 pm

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the witcher series is the most overrated trash in gaming off all time you circlejerking fags
That would be Fallout.
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