"Cartoons"

[Moe Bitches]

But Lily Orchard hates this show.

I dunno who that is and I feel grateful for my ignorance

Just as a tl;dw, she's an animation critic who has been called out a lot for being garbage.

[JL Unlimited]

Now even though that show's art style isn't bad, there's worse out there that I've seen, it goes off model quite a lot and the behind the scene stuff is just really odd.

That’s because ((Sugar))) let’s her storyboard artist draw the characters in their own style. John K did that on Ren and Stimpy, but he also had very detailed layouts.

http://johnkstuff.blogspot.com/2010/03/ ... t.html?m=0

[VoiceOfReasonPast]

Please don't compare the CalArts crew with people who actually know what they're doing.

[Moe Bitches]

Ren and Stimpy's animation was great for television quality animation. From what I heard and what little I've seen while it looks okay in stills, but in motion not so much. Plus the only time the animation really shines is that Rubberhose thing from the movie. Otherwise it's just ok. It's not bland like those flash animated Cucknadian imported shows but it's not nu-Spongebob tier.

[Kugelfisch]

Now even though that show's art style isn't bad

I'd like to stop you and disagree heavily with that. It's beyond basic and not in a good way. I could draw SU no problem and I can't draw for shit.

[Tony Schiavone]

I'd like to stop you and disagree heavily with that. It's beyond basic and not in a good way. I could draw SU no problem and I can't draw for shit.

That's some real talk. The quality of burger animation has declined so much in the past decades.

At this point the 1970s-era Ruby-Spears cartoons look like modern art pieces in comparison.

[Moe Bitches]

You just gotta look in the right places. 1970s-era Ruby-Spears just had limited animation (but that Megaman show can fuck right off) but otherwise it looked appealing. The whole minimalist art style works for some shows, but ffs when you have shows that look exactly the same it's sad really.

Like when I look at Genndy Tartakovsky's work, which is part of what inspired my artstyle (especially Dex and Titan) you can tell that the same guy directed the animation but each show has it's own unique style.

But of course an example of shows that look exactly the same would be FG/AD/CS and especially Brickleberry and Paradise P.D. These shows practically have the same look.

But I agree that most cartoons have that minimalist look to it, but not in a good way. At least those UPA cartoons were doing something creative/interesting with their limited budget.

[Kugelfisch]

Minimalist doesn't have to be bad. But in the case of SU especially it just plain is. Of all the CalARTS kinda shows it's easily the worst-looking, not only from a pure craft kind of standpoint but also in terms of overall art style.
Adventure Time, Regular Show and Gravity Falls all look better and more coherent. Fucking South Park has more of a coherent art style!

[JL Unlimited]

That's some real talk. The quality of burger animation has declined so much in the past decades.

You can thank union organizers like Herbert Sorrell for that. And take a wild guess as to who funded these unions.

SpoilerShow

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Sorrell

In 1953, in an actor's lawsuit Sorrell testified that while he was never a communist, he did feel free to spend their money.

[Le Redditeur]

That's some real talk. The quality of burger animation has declined so much in the past decades.

You can thank union organizers like Herbert Sorrell for that. And take a wild guess as to who funded these unions.

SpoilerShow

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Sorrell

In 1953, in an actor's lawsuit Sorrell testified that while he was never a communist, he did feel free to spend their money.

THat name is also somewhat (((suspicious))).