Movie Thread

[Old Black Man]

Titan A.E. is a film I really enjoy.

[Musical Space Cowboy]

Titan A.E. is a film I really enjoy.

Underrated movie. I'm probably one of the few people to have seen it in a theater, considering it didn't do very well.

[Old Black Man]

Titan A.E. is a film I really enjoy.

Underrated movie. I'm probably one of the few people to have seen it in a theater, considering it didn't do very well.

Same here, it was an awesome experience. I think Akima in a towel sold it for a lot of people.

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Terminator: Dark Fate (2019)

For a long time I avoided watching this as I was convinced it would definitely be too woke 4 moi. For some inexplicable reason, I now wanted to watch the entire Terminator franchise. Anyway, it can't possibly be as crap as Terminator fucking Sega Genesis, can it? Let's find out.

The movie opens with John Connor's death in 1998, killed by a T-800. This Terminator was sent back before the events of T2, which ended with Skynet being prevented. But if Skynet was stopped, why are its Terminators still active? And if killing John was Skynet's goal, why didn't Skynet ever rise? This undermines the entire struggle of T2—John's survival, humanity's hope—rendering it all pointless since he's killed anyway. The film's explanation, that this T-800 came from "a future that never happened" feels like a cheap narrative loophole that strips T2 of its emotional and thematic weight. Well, whatever.

So Skynet is gone, but now we have a new, nearly identical threat from the future: Legion. And just like before, humanity's fate hinges on one person—this time a young Mexican Latina girl Dani. Legion sends a Terminator that's basically a remix of the T-1000, and the cycle begins again. What's the point of fighting these AI apocalypses if defeating one just makes room for another identical one?

The new Terminator, Rev-9, is essentially a T-1000 with upgrades. It can shapeshift and split into two entities: a liquid metal shell and a solid endoskeleton. But even by Terminator standards, its physics are baffling. Both parts seem to retain the full strength and mass of the original, which makes no sense in terms of conservation of matter. Its abilities fluctuate wildly depending on what the plot needs—sometimes unstoppable, sometimes conveniently beatable. In the end, it's defeated using fairly conventional means.

From the future, humanity sends Grace, a cybernetically enhanced supersoldier, to protect Dani. Grace is powerful but suffers from periodic exhaustion and needs medication to function. This feels like a contrived way to weaken her when the plot demands it. Her durability and vulnerability are also quite inconsistent; she's thrown around, blown up, and dropped from heights, yet recovers instantly with no visible damage. The film never explains how her body heals. Is it regeneration? Just toughness? If it's regeneration, why does she still need meds? Grace is a mix of extreme resilience and sudden fragility, dictated more by plot convenience than coherent character design. Lazy writing.

Then there's Arnold. After killing John, the T-800, now going by Carl, has settled down in rural Texas with a wife and stepson, working as a drapery installer. Wait, what?? He's a Terminator. These machines weren't built to ponder existential questions, grow a conscience, or start families. This sounds like a parody, but the film plays it completely straight. How did no one notice he was a cyborg? Carl feels guilt over John's death and starts sending Sarah Connor messages about incoming Terminators. Why?

Carl has developed the ability to detect "temporal shockwaves" or whatever fuck they're called, ripples in time that occur when a new Terminator arrives. This is a brand-new ability never mentioned in the franchise before. And who's sending these Terminators? Legion? Are they all Rev-9s or some earlier, weaker models? The film doesn't say. And how can a machine with no time-travel tech detect these waves? It breaks the established rules of the universe and raises the question: if this was possible, why didn't Skynet or the Resistance ever use it?

And then there's Sarah Connor. She's been single-handedly eliminating Terminators around the world for decades. No matter how skilled she is, this is absurd. These machines are nearly indestructible, and she has no any kind of organization backing her. Where does she get the weapons, intel, and resources to globe-trot and hunt Terminators? The film doesn't even try to explain her funding or logistics. At 63, Linda Hamilton looks like a Hillary Clinton-action grandma—again, something that would fit in a parody, but here it's played with a straight face.

Perhaps I should also say something about the movie's 'main character' Dani, played by Natalia Reyes. She's such an unlikable and personality-less non-entity that it's absolutely ridiculous to imagine her as some future leader, or any kind of leader at all. The scene where she's supposed to show stronkness as a unifier of future humanity was just dreadful. Whoopie fucking doo, I was genuinely embarrassed watching it.

Don't watch this. If you're in the mood for a good bad movie, check out The Atlantis Interceptors or Hard Ticket to Hawaii. Previously the only true ranking for the Terminator franchise was the chronological one. Now even that's been broken.

The Terminator 10/10
Terminator 2 10/10
Terminator 3 5/10
Terminator Salvation 4/10
Terminator Dark Fate 2/10
Terminator Sega Genesis 1/10

[CuckTurdginson]

Genesis is a disaster. Dark Fate does that soft reboot thing that I hate, but I suppose Genesis is objectively worse.

[Old Black Man]

Terminator Dyke Fate. I actually like Salvation a lot if you treat it as a prequel.

[VoiceOfReasonPast]

For a long time I avoided watching this as I was convinced it would definitely be too woke 4 moi. For some inexplicable reason, I now wanted to watch the entire Terminator franchise.

Why would you do that? Most of them aren't canon anymore, anyways.

What's the point of fighting these AI apocalypses if defeating one just makes room for another identical one?

Some of these AI apocalypses have a savior more diverse that some white cis het boy, shitlord.

The new Terminator, Rev-9, is essentially a T-1000 with upgrades. It can shapeshift and split into two entities: a liquid metal shell and a solid endoskeleton. But even by Terminator standards, its physics are baffling. Both parts seem to retain the full strength and mass of the original, which makes no sense in terms of conservation of matter. Its abilities fluctuate wildly depending on what the plot needs—sometimes unstoppable, sometimes conveniently beatable. In the end, it's defeated using fairly conventional means.

I've heard this Terminator loves ragdolling the protagonists around instead of just shanking them.
And the idea is just lame. How the fuck does a T-1000 become better if you force it to have an inferior endoskeleton tag team buddy?
You know what'd be really scary? A grey goo Terminator, aka a T-1000 that can split itself up and assimilate raw materials, thus improving its multi-tasking capabilities.
You basically send one T-1000 back into the past, and the guy will proceed to create more without any more time travel necessary.

Grace is a mix of extreme resilience and sudden fragility, dictated more by plot convenience than coherent character design. Lazy writing.

Lazy writing, or internalized misogyny?

How did no one notice he was a cyborg? Carl feels guilt over John's death and starts sending Sarah Connor messages about incoming Terminators. Why?

They've drawn the wrong conclusions from his arc in T2 and didn't think about pesky things like "logic" or "common sense".

Where does she get the weapons, intel, and resources to globe-trot and hunt Terminators? The film doesn't even try to explain her funding or logistics.

Antifa.

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For a long time I avoided watching this as I was convinced it would definitely be too woke 4 moi. For some inexplicable reason, I now wanted to watch the entire Terminator franchise.

Why would you do that? Most of them aren't canon anymore, anyways.

I have no brain and I must consoom.
Of course this movie is canon. It was produced, written, and approved by Cameron. It's canon, just like the Star Wars Holiday Special is canon to Star Wars.

I've heard this Terminator loves ragdolling the protagonists around instead of just shanking them

That's absolutely true. In this movie, everyone is constantly throwing and punching each other so hard that people go flying through the air and crashing into walls. It feels like they should've added comic book-style 'BOOM!' text boxes like in the 60s Batman series. Even though it's an R-rated film, the action scenes are incredibly childish. I really don't understand where the R-rating comes from. Maybe it's just because Sarah Connor says 'fuck' a lot.

[VoiceOfReasonPast]

I bet the said precisely the amount of "fuck"s required to get that rating.
I can only imagine that the coveted Chinese market is more stingy when it comes to ratings, so they got their Western R rating in a way that is easier to adjust for foreign markets.

Of course this movie is canon. It was produced, written, and approved by Cameron. It's canon, just like the Star Wars Holiday Special is canon to Star Wars.

At least until the next sequel erases all events that happened in this sequel from existence.

[RedLine]

Terminator: Dark Fate (2019)

Don't watch this.

Done and done, my man. I didn't even know there were three movies after T3.