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Re: Star Dreck

Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:30 am

The only reason some see communism in TOS is because one of the characters was Russian.
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Post by Kugelfisch » Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:55 am

It takes place in a past needs society. Or at least it used to until Picard established that there will still be nogs on crack.
Good thing none of that is canonical.
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Post by Guest » Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:28 pm

Kugelfisch wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:55 am
Picard established that there will still be nogs on crack.
Picard the show or TNG? Either way, tobe fair, the original script for City on the Edge of Forever had the villain be a guy who was selling drugs on the Enterprise. Then Roddenberry screeched at Ellison 'REEE In the 23rd Century they wouldn't doooo that! Change it!' So he changed it.

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Post by Kugelfisch » Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:35 pm

Picard the (shit) show.
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Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:05 pm

Guest wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 2:28 pm
Picard the show or TNG? Either way, tobe fair, the original script for City on the Edge of Forever had the villain be a guy who was selling drugs on the Enterprise. Then Roddenberry screeched at Ellison 'REEE In the 23rd Century they wouldn't doooo that! Change it!' So he changed it.
Then what are Harry Mudd and the Orion Syndicate doing?
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Re: Star Dreck

Post by Kugelfisch » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:22 pm

Trading fake Pokémon cards.
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Post by Guest » Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:59 pm

VoiceOfReasonPast wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 3:05 pm
Then what are Harry Mudd and the Orion Syndicate doing?
Selling pussy

I think Roddenberry's objection was that it was a crew member of the Enterprise selling the drugs and another crewmember taking them and members of the Enterprise were supposed to all be good moral upstanding citizens who would never ever do such a thing. Roddenberry would often say of Ellison's script 'He had Scotty selling drugs'. Ellison (and others) would correct him and point out that wasn't true (Scotty doesn't even appear in the original script). So Roddenberry would apologise. Then he'd go right back to saying it again.

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Re: Star Dreck

Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:05 pm

Didn't stop all those evil Admirals to pop up in TNG.
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Re: Star Dreck

Post by Guest » Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:08 pm

VoiceOfReasonPast wrote:
Fri Apr 09, 2021 4:05 pm
Didn't stop all those evil Admirals to pop up in TNG.
Yeah but that's TNG. Completely different ballgame. Depending on when you're talking about, Roddenberry also obviously had less influence on the show.

Which is not to say that Roddenberry didn't also have his completely arbitrary rules about what they would and wouldn't do in the future for TNG as well

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Re: Star Dreck

Post by Guest » Sat Apr 10, 2021 8:35 am

How the fuck do you make 34 of DD a lesbian but don't have any scenes of her munching carpet? What's the point then?

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