Reddit unterwandert?

Shitpost central. Also known as the Ratfuck and Mucha containment board.
User avatar
Credo in Deum
Posts: 504
Joined: Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:51 pm

Re: Reddit unterwandert?

Post by Credo in Deum » Thu Jul 14, 2022 9:14 pm


User avatar
Dingus Bajingus
Posts: 1305
Joined: Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:06 pm
Location: Lilac City, Burgerland

Re: Reddit unterwandert?

Post by Dingus Bajingus » Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:16 pm

Kugelfisch wrote:
Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:10 pm
The same with French. When I had French in school, I found that aspect easy, despite the genders of things being completely different and just as random. You just develop a feel for it.

I suppose that's harder if it's not a concept one grew up with.
Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. I've just recently started learning German for real, but I took several years of Spanish when I was much younger, so the underlying concept doesn't feel strange to me at all. It does feel a bit awkward for feminine articles to play double-duty as plurals, if I'm embarrassingly honest. Is that why "Mädchen" is a neuter noun, by the way? That happens to be a word that doesn't itself change by quantity, thus "die Mädchen" reads as plural, thus the singular had to get something else?

User avatar
Kugelfisch
Terminal Shitposter
Posts: 40491
Joined: Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:36 pm

Re: Reddit unterwandert?

Post by Kugelfisch » Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:25 pm

It's always "die" in plural. That Mädchen doesn't happen to have a plural version is coincidence and not unusual. Eis, Pizza, Bier, Spargel and so on all don't have a plural version.

So it's not just feminine articles that sometimes don't have a plural.
SpoilerShow
Image
Psalm 137:9

User avatar
Dingus Bajingus
Posts: 1305
Joined: Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:06 pm
Location: Lilac City, Burgerland

Re: Reddit unterwandert?

Post by Dingus Bajingus » Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:36 pm

I think you misread me. I was wondering about the fact that "Mädchen" is neuter, not feminine, despite meaning "girl." If it were feminine, of course, both the singular and plural would be "die Mädchen," so I wonder if it's neuter for the sake of differentiating those. I'm probably just overthinking it, though.

User avatar
Kugelfisch
Terminal Shitposter
Posts: 40491
Joined: Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:36 pm

Re: Reddit unterwandert?

Post by Kugelfisch » Fri Jul 15, 2022 1:44 am

Oh. If there is a reason, nobody knows. As I said, there's no rhyme or reason to it. Neither is there in French, to my knowledge.

As a native speaker, I have never thought about the "gender" of an article in the literal sense. It's not helpful to think in that way at all, because it's random.
SpoilerShow
Image
Psalm 137:9

User avatar
Dingus Bajingus
Posts: 1305
Joined: Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:06 pm
Location: Lilac City, Burgerland

Re: Reddit unterwandert?

Post by Dingus Bajingus » Fri Jul 15, 2022 2:23 am

Yeah, I usually don't either. Most things don't actually have literal gender, as you say. That one specific case of it just stood out to me bit, since... well, it does.

User avatar
VoiceOfReasonPast
Supreme Shitposter
Posts: 39902
Joined: Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:33 pm

Re: Reddit unterwandert?

Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Fri Jul 15, 2022 5:57 am

Dingus Bajingus wrote:
Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:16 pm
It does feel a bit awkward for feminine articles to play double-duty as plurals, if I'm embarrassingly honest. Is that why "Mädchen" is a neuter noun, by the way?
Nah, that's just systemic misogyny.

(Or it seems to be a common theme with the "-chen" suffix, which is usually applied to make something sound more cutesy. There's not really a "base" version of Mädchen, though)
Yeah, I know exactly what you mean. I've just recently started learning German for real
Looking forward to talking with you like a real man of culture.
Kugelfisch wrote:
Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:25 pm
Eis, Pizza, Bier, Spargel and so on all don't have a plural version.
Pizzen and Biere would beg to differ.
Autism attracts more autism. Sooner or later, an internet nobody will attract the exact kind of fans - and detractors - he deserves.
-Yours Truly

4 wikia: static -> vignette

User avatar
Kugelfisch
Terminal Shitposter
Posts: 40491
Joined: Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:36 pm

Re: Reddit unterwandert?

Post by Kugelfisch » Fri Jul 15, 2022 6:00 am

VoiceOfReasonPast wrote:
Fri Jul 15, 2022 5:57 am
Kugelfisch wrote:
Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:25 pm
Eis, Pizza, Bier, Spargel and so on all don't have a plural version.
Pizzen and Biere would be to differ.
Well-known idiot identifiers. Don't teach him the German equivalent to "would of".
SpoilerShow
Image
Psalm 137:9

User avatar
VoiceOfReasonPast
Supreme Shitposter
Posts: 39902
Joined: Sat Mar 25, 2017 3:33 pm

Re: Reddit unterwandert?

Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Fri Jul 15, 2022 6:01 am

It's even worse. According to the Duden you can use both Pizzas and Pizzen.
Autism attracts more autism. Sooner or later, an internet nobody will attract the exact kind of fans - and detractors - he deserves.
-Yours Truly

4 wikia: static -> vignette

User avatar
Kugelfisch
Terminal Shitposter
Posts: 40491
Joined: Sat Mar 25, 2017 1:36 pm

Re: Reddit unterwandert?

Post by Kugelfisch » Fri Jul 15, 2022 6:12 am

I know. It's a concession to retards. Biere is the worst offender. I'd immediately stop talking to anyone using it.

Oh wait, Pizzen is alright. My bad. I was thinking of Pizzas as the example of retard spelling.

Biere is an abomination, though.
SpoilerShow
Image
Psalm 137:9

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: ebin namefag and 1 guest