Re: Pumping iron
Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:12 am
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>protein whenMoe Bitches wrote: ↑Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:40 amSo it something I've been doing lately, but I have to ask, is it a good idea to drink protein before bed? I'm taking advantage of the fact that I have a home gym with a treadmill and some weights along with a punching bag.
Eating wise I've been having tons of meat like beef jerky, steak, burgers and other foods like eggs, peanut butter, some plant protein, sardines, salmon, etc. Last time I checked I weighed between 172 and 179.
Basically what Kugel said. Maybe it works if you snort it before bed, maybe or maybe not. Protein is still full of mysteries.https://examine.com/nutrition/second-look-at-protein-quantity-after-exercise/ wrote: Q. Is it important to ingest protein immediately after training?
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Ingesting protein right after training may or may not be absolutely necessary, but it can’t hurt.
Plant based anything is tricky generally speaking. People tend have this idea of vegetables being "healthy" but the science behind it is actually kinda weak, even New Soy Times mentioned that even though they generally push soyboy diet (while bitching on how cow is bad for climate ofc). tl;dr studies on clean non-processed meat heavy diet is lacking, also the methods of studies themselves are often problematicMoe Bitches wrote: ↑Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:28 amKicking and punching is all in the mind whenever I took karate for half of my life, but that's not really going to do jack shit in a real fight. But I thought it was needed hours before you exercise.
The plant protein was something that I was skeptical about. It said you needed to mix it with water and let it sit for thirty minutes, but in the end it tasted like shit. I tried it with milk and it tasted better.
Those numbers are much closer together than you think.AdorableOtter wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:45 amI still eat plant but I abandoned "vegetables is healthy" mindset some time ago. Just think about how many plants in plant species are edible for human, compared to how many animal species are.
Just like we do with animals. We also test meat for a wide array of wonderful diseases and worms before we rate it safe for consumption. Failing to do so gets us shit like the current China Flu.AdorableOtter wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:45 amIt's just humanity has hand selected, modified and processed plants to be edible/harmless.
Some are toxic. We tend to not eat those. Out species isn't exactly made to eat anything raw. Eating a wild animal raw is a fantastic way to kill yourself.AdorableOtter wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:45 amWe shouldn't forget plants are toxic by nature (except for fruits) just try eating raw kidney beans if REALLY think vegetables are good. (don't, lol)
Then let's talk about the ratio. What about the chance you randomly pick up a plant and it's edible (or may be I should say digestible), compared to the chance with meat you cut off from someone/something you randomly killed.
That's kinda true but Chink flu is not a good example imo, you don't need to eat meat to contract the virus. Better and MUCH scarier example would be somethings like mad cow disease but the most common problems with meat are parasites or much less hardcore diseases, both of them can be treated with heat, you don't really need to test it most of the time even though shit happens.Kugelfisch wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:53 pmJust like we do with animals. We also test meat for a wide array of wonderful diseases and worms before we rate it safe for consumption. Failing to do so gets us shit like the current China Flu.
Fruits are totally edible raw. In fact the most safe and digestible food from biological standpoint is probably fruits, but the problem is fruits are pretty lacking in nutrition. You can survive on fruits but the quality of life have to suffer a lot.Kugelfisch wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:53 pmOut species isn't exactly made to eat anything raw. Eating a wild animal raw is a fantastic way to kill yourself.
It's a bit of a nitpick but as long as you stick to less contaminated ones, eating too much fish just make you fat. On the other hand eating too much spinach (even organic pesticide free ones) can straight up kill you because of natually occuring oxalates (or hardly give you any nutrient if you detoxify it). Similar incident actually happened in WWI with ruberb.Kugelfisch wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:53 pmReally, all you're saying applies to meat just as well. Eating too much spinach can cause mineral deficiency, too much fish can give you mercury poisoning. Eating raw beans is a bad idea, so is eating raw poultry. The edible plants we call vegetables are hand-selected and cultivated, so are all your meat products.
>vitaminKugelfisch wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:53 pmToo much of anything is always bad and outright avoiding either meat or vegetables is plain stupid because you don't take advantage of easy sources of vitamins or proteins. And as for fibre it helps you take a comfortable shit, which has been known for ages and is a big part of life quality.
And how is that relevant to the subject? I'm talking about food safety and optimal nutrition, not ideological anything. Not to mention the fact I totally eat plants. As if you are as smart as typical guest posters...oh
Oh so just don't eat all of these kinds of fish somehow is equal to this one specific kind of vegetable being possibly deadly? Honestly, what are the amounts we're talking about here? The only example is from time of the Great War when people had often no choice on what to eat. Outside of that, who would ever eat enough spinach often enough to run into issues?AdorableOtter wrote: ↑Thu Apr 30, 2020 4:49 amIt's a bit of a nitpick but as long as you stick to less contaminated ones, eating too much fish just make you fat. On the other hand eating too much spinach (even organic pesticide free ones) can straight up kill you because of natually occuring oxalates (or hardly give you any nutrient if you detoxify it). Similar incident actually happened in WWI with ruberb.
In both scenarios dosage does matter yes, but would you rather become fat or die?