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Re: Russia

Post by RAPEMAN » Wed Sep 21, 2022 4:32 am

Osterzone wrote:
Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:11 am
Roach king is feeling a little bold
That is truly golden coming from the Turks.
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Re: Russia

Post by Osterzone » Wed Sep 21, 2022 6:11 am

Here we go

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Re: Russia

Post by rabidtictac » Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:16 am

There it is. Just what I was wondering about. He has very little left to lose. Assuming he's immune to assassination at this time, he can call for a full-scale war economy and who can say no? The army ultimately has to do what he says. Shut up and soldier, solder, etc.
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Re: Russia

Post by McGinnis » Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:30 am

TheBilthCollector wrote:
Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:27 am
The West is getting ready to drag this shit out for years. This is the next multi-decade conflict no matter what happens.
Won't last for years. Western economy is pretty much on its knees now. If they insist on pushing this, we'll be looking at a fall of the Soviet Union type situation

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Re: Russia

Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Wed Sep 21, 2022 10:09 am

TheBilthCollector wrote:
Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:27 am
The West is getting ready to drag this shit out for years. This is the next multi-decade conflict no matter what happens.
At least it's happening to a white(-passing) country this time around. That's progress.
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Re: Russia

Post by Poonoo » Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:19 pm

RAPEMAN wrote:
Wed Sep 21, 2022 4:32 am
Osterzone wrote:
Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:11 am
Roach king is feeling a little bold
That is truly golden coming from the Turks.
They can give back Constantinople and Anatolia to Greece if he wants to talk that mad shit. Not like he can do a damn thing anyway with Turkey's inflation already at 80%. He wanted a new Ottoman Empire, well I guess they are the sick man of Europe again.
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Re: Russia

Post by Le Redditeur » Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:47 pm

rabidtictac wrote:
Wed Sep 21, 2022 8:16 am
There it is. Just what I was wondering about. He has very little left to lose. Assuming he's immune to assassination at this time, he can call for a full-scale war economy and who can say no? The army ultimately has to do what he says. Shut up and soldier, solder, etc.
At the end of the day, he who holds the power will make the final decisions, and it's not like Putin is an (overt) puppet that can't just do whatever he wants and people will make him regret it. But it definitely buries the narrative that the invasion is going "well". They definitely thought Ukraine would buckle in a couple of weeks, and when they didn't, plans started going to shit.

I think this also indicates that the reserves which their economic team has been using to stabilize Russian economy under the current circumstances are really drying up, so it's necessary to go into war economy mode.This month really took a toll on Russia and this shows it. Of course, it's another round of escalation and a pretty bad one, because now they're going all in and the last thing you need is a nuclear power going all in without an avenue to pull out while saving face (which calling the war a "special military operation" definitely made room for).

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Re: Russia

Post by Kugelfisch » Wed Sep 21, 2022 2:53 pm

Did they expect Putin to just let this go? That hasn't been an option for quite a while.

Erdogan is being hilarious again. Why doesn't he fuck off from Cyprus already before talking shit? Not even Putin is occupying land belonging to a EU-member state.
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Re: Russia

Post by Le Redditeur » Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:47 pm

Oh no, that's totally different, you see. Something something Turkish sovereignty something something the Greeks blah blah stop oppressing Turkey or the refugees will flow into Europe.

It would be great if Putin just publicly told Ergodan to shut up and fuck off. I suppose that wouldn't mend relationships with the West, but looking forward, that's a cause everybody can rally behind.

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Re: Russia

Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Wed Sep 21, 2022 3:51 pm

Erdogan: "It's okay when I do it"
Le Redditeur wrote:
Wed Sep 21, 2022 12:47 pm
Of course, it's another round of escalation and a pretty bad one, because now they're going all in and the last thing you need is a nuclear power going all in without an avenue to pull out while saving face (which calling the war a "special military operation" definitely made room for).
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