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Post by CuckTurdginson » Sun Jul 13, 2025 6:42 am

I believe Zod knifed Jor-El, and not the other way around. But VORP is welcome to quit fapping and step in.
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Post by ebin namefag » Sun Jul 13, 2025 6:49 am

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TL;DR Toriyama's been turning Goku's origin story into Superman's, so Gunn responded by turning Superman's origin story into Goku's. He was sent there to kill everybody. I guess General Zod is going to call him Kakarot when he shows up in a sequel.
So Suups doing the "Yamcha pose" in the trailer was on purpose. What a hack.
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Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Sun Jul 13, 2025 7:34 am

How bad is Lex in this? I've never been a fan of 3DPD Lex casting beause they always pick an actor who looks too young at best and like a total twink at worst.
They're always a far cry from the DCAU version where he's not only smart and cultivated, but also built like he could handle himself in a fight against Batman. Those live-action version just never quite have the same presence as him.
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I believe Zod knifed Jor-El, and not the other way around. But VORP is welcome to quit fapping and step in.
You mean in the movie, or in general? I don't really care enough to watch it, and I've never been terribly interested in Kryptonian lore.
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TL;DR Toriyama's been turning Goku's origin story into Superman's, so Gunn responded by turning Superman's origin story into Goku's. He was sent there to kill everybody. I guess General Zod is going to call him Kakarot when he shows up in a sequel.
And he and Zod are gonna beam clash with their lazor beams, and Supes will win by going Kaioken x4, or x5 or whatever the fuck it was again.

And didn't the Snyder movie also rip off an anime? Tetsuwan Birdy I think?
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Post by Complicity » Sun Jul 13, 2025 7:48 am

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And he and Zod are gonna beam clash with their lazor beams, and Supes will win by asking all the good democrats to raise their arms so he can collect their empathy for the Genki Dama
It's ripping off a Dragonball OAV, after all.

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Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Sun Jul 13, 2025 7:59 am

Also hang on a sec... Supes was sent there to kill everyone? So the peaceful refugee got turned into a violent illegal immigrant? What did Warner mean by this?
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Post by Complicity » Sun Jul 13, 2025 8:04 am

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Also hang on a sec... Supes was sent there to kill everyone?
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Post by Liar Revealed » Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:40 pm

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Also hang on a sec... Supes was sent there to kill everyone? So the peaceful refugee got turned into a violent illegal immigrant? What did Warner mean by this?
Remember too, the long standing theory is that Superman is specifically a Jewish immigration story.
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Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:41 pm

But don't the Kryptonians usually die out due to their own arrogance/complacency/incompetence?
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Post by Gendo's Ocular Dickhole » Sun Jul 13, 2025 4:06 pm

Liar Revealed wrote:
Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:40 pm
VoiceOfReasonPast wrote:
Sun Jul 13, 2025 7:59 am
Also hang on a sec... Supes was sent there to kill everyone? So the peaceful refugee got turned into a violent illegal immigrant? What did Warner mean by this?
Remember too, the long standing theory is that Superman is specifically a Jewish immigration story.
>original Supes created by 2 jews
>fast forward to 2025
>conflict between 2 fictional nations very reminiscent to Israel/Palestine war
>nu-Superman is played by a Jewish actor
>said nu-Superman was sent to Earth to inflitrate + wipe out humanity for Krypton to conquer
>Gunn's brother insists that Jewperman is a story about immigration
>Hawkgirl drops a Netanyahu analogue to his death
>nu-Lex is telling the truth after deciphering the alien message about the Deep State's Kryptonian plot to rule the Earth, but portrays him as evil for noticing things

What did James Gunn mean by this?
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Post by CuckTurdginson » Sun Jul 13, 2025 5:33 pm

I believe the line was he was to “conquer earth, rule over it and take many wives.” It is worth noting that his arc is him deciding to be nice to everyone anyway…after he gets a pep talk from Pa Kent. Both the Kent’s are alive in this, and that was a change I actually liked; the pep talks good.

So Superman is a violent immigrant, who gets raised as a good boi by his red state farmer adopted parents. :lol:

On to Lex, he is reasonably calculating; and while Gene Hackman is a better actor, he wins points for a weirder, more elaborate villain plot. I would need to go back through the cartoon series to see if Clancy Brown ever lost his shit like this Lex does a few times in the 3rd act of this movie.

Of the big three, none are turning in bad performances; extended to Lex. This dudes *leaaaaagues* above whatever the fuck Jesse Eisenberg was doing. I would love to see this interpretation of the character with a cooler head, and they’ve definitely set it up so he can come back.

From a script point of view, Lex does suffer from the movie being too crowded. His motivation is that he hates Superman because he’s jealous, and tobefaire; I’m reading through Red Son, and that’s almost the exact motivation Stalins illegitimate son has for hating Suupes. It does seem like hating Superchad for fucking their bitch is a common villain motivation in the comic universe.

From a script point of view, we only know this because Lex trauma dumps in the third act, if Gunn hadn’t structured the movie to be super crowded/open in medias res; maybe we could’ve seen a moment where we see Lex trying to solve a problem he’s been working on for years and Superman does it in like ten seconds. Idk.
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