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Re: Capeshit thread (comics and movies)

Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Sun Aug 13, 2023 5:08 pm

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I thought this comment was interesting because it goes into detail. I'm not sure if I agree with it, but it does seem to sum up what a lot of the disenfranchised fans feel.
I think for a film franchise to last, they have to do what the best bands do - grow with their audience rather than keep trying to recruit yet another young crowd over and over again.

MCU is doing the opposite. It got increasingly darker and more serious, taking in some effective thriller / espionage / mystery and even some horror, culminating in the deaths of popular characters.

It's now regressed. If you were 16 when Iron Man was released in 2008 you are now 31 years old and the logical evolution for the MCU should have been movies like Logan, Joker, Blade or more R-rated territory.

Instead, the most recent movies have been increasingly juvenile - older fans are getting tired of the same formula while newer fans are not being recruited as they've simply too much catching up to do. :!:
The MCU is basically a speedrun version of a franchise being corrupted by nepotism and narcissism.
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Re: Capeshit thread (comics and movies)

Post by Complicity » Sun Aug 13, 2023 6:40 pm

VoiceOfReasonPast wrote:
Sun Aug 13, 2023 5:08 pm
RedLine wrote:
Sun Aug 13, 2023 12:41 am
I don't think there's a great answer. Wacky and zany stuff can work and serious stuff where Dr. Octopus anal rapes Mary Jane to death can work. The underlying movie not being shit matters way more than tone.
Mechanical tentacles are the hidden gem of tentacle erotica.
As demonstrated by the good Iron Man movie:


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Post by CuckTurdginson » Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:01 pm

Joss Whedon ruins everything. A man who both is and resembles cancer.
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Re: Capeshit thread (comics and movies)

Post by Lindsay's Liver » Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:24 pm

I won't bet money on it, but I'm wondering if "Blue Beetle" might do better than people are saying. Every comment I see predicts that it's going to bomb. It's a character who's not a household name AND it's connected to DC's sinking ship. It's not looking good, BUT the trailer pushes the Hispanic angle, which no capeshit movie has done before (to my memory).

It's interesting to me because Hispanics are a larger minority in the US than blacks, yet popular media doesn't cater to them nearly as much.

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Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Tue Aug 15, 2023 9:30 pm

The funny thing is that Marvel had a shot at this with their America Chavez character. Too bad they wasted her as a supporting character in a Doctor Strange movie.
Might be for the better, though. Her backstory might backfire (she's from another universe/dimension/whatever and merely identifies as hispanic because she has the right skin tone).
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Post by Kugelfisch » Wed Aug 16, 2023 2:33 pm

Lindsay's Liver wrote:
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It's interesting to me because Hispanics are a larger minority in the US than blacks, yet popular media doesn't cater to them nearly as much.
Beaners aren't as receptive to that low effort kind of pandering that starts and ends with casting a slightly brown person.
Latinos are very nationalistic.
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Post by RedLine » Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:30 pm

Yea, a Honduran superhero isn't going to get Mexicans or Colombians into the theater even if it's branded as a generic Captain Latino.

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Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:58 pm

I think that would be Latin-X. Probably an X-Men with I guess the power of vitiligo (so he can cover the rich diversity of hispanic skin pigmentations).
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Post by CuckTurdginson » Wed Aug 16, 2023 8:42 pm

I suppose it could be an upset, but the odds are against it.
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Re: Capeshit thread (comics and movies)

Post by Kugelfisch » Fri Aug 18, 2023 11:26 pm

VoiceOfReasonPast wrote:
Wed Aug 16, 2023 3:58 pm
I think that would be Latin-X.
That'd be like calling the new Black Panther "Nigger Man", except not funny. The worst of both worlds.
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