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Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Sat Aug 30, 2025 2:28 pm

>cops are good
>criminals are shit


I can see why Northern American audiences wouldn't like this one.
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Post by RAPEMAN » Sat Aug 30, 2025 7:19 pm

The only way to find good movies now is to look outside the West.
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Post by ebin namefag » Sat Aug 30, 2025 7:24 pm

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The films are based on the memoirs of a former BOPE officer (which I haven't read), and the leftist director Padilha apparently intended to criticize BOPE's actions (and police brutality in general). When I first watched these movies, it never even occurred to me that they should be taken as a critique of police violence. :lol: On the contrary, I thought the films were just harsh portrayals of a cycle of violence without any hidden agendas or messages, and that's why they work so well for me.
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Post by Rushy » Sat Aug 30, 2025 7:59 pm

I've never understood the demonization of the police.

Corrupt cops, yes, but this whole idea that cops as a whole are bad is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. It's like seeing some doctors do corrupt shit and then saying we should get rid of hospitals. Like wtf
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Post by TheManWithNoPlan » Sat Aug 30, 2025 8:26 pm

Rushy wrote:
Sat Aug 30, 2025 7:59 pm
I've never understood the demonization of the police.

Corrupt cops, yes, but this whole idea that cops as a whole are bad is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. It's like seeing some doctors do corrupt shit and then saying we should get rid of hospitals. Like wtf
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Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Sat Aug 30, 2025 8:27 pm

Rushy wrote:
Sat Aug 30, 2025 7:59 pm
I've never understood the demonization of the police.
They're mean to minorities (who happen to be criminal).
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Post by Old Black Man » Sat Aug 30, 2025 8:59 pm

Just watch The Raid, it’s minorities beating up minorities.
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Post by Le Redditeur » Sat Aug 30, 2025 10:43 pm

ebin namefag wrote:
Sat Aug 30, 2025 7:24 pm
veris leta facies wrote:
Sat Aug 30, 2025 2:22 pm
The films are based on the memoirs of a former BOPE officer (which I haven't read), and the leftist director Padilha apparently intended to criticize BOPE's actions (and police brutality in general). When I first watched these movies, it never even occurred to me that they should be taken as a critique of police violence. :lol: On the contrary, I thought the films were just harsh portrayals of a cycle of violence without any hidden agendas or messages, and that's why they work so well for me.
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The first movie is based on a book written by two ex-cops. Padilha tried to be somewhat faithful to the book expecting that the portrait of BOPE as brutal urban warmongers would bring awareness to the cause of Leftist NGOs like Viva Rio. Except the middle class has had enough of drug cartels and their political support network, and the highly memetic of characters like Nascimento and Fábio (some of their lines even became part of the Brazilian folklore) made sure whatever message Padilha was relying to convey was neutralized.

The second movie was an attempt to damage control by making the corrupt police militias (that were starting to replace the cartels in some favelas) as the main villains. It somewhat worked, and militias became synonym of "the Rightwing-align narco-state", to a point even to this day the Bolsonaro family is lobbed together with them in the media and Leftwing political circles.

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