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[Rushy]

Doctor Who is embarrassing stupid, cheesy shit that's like something out of terrible fanfiction that Britbongs meme as good so they can pretend they have some kind respected, long running sci-fi show to rival Star Trek to their name.

Doctor Who predates Star Trek you jealous zit

How do we know that? They erased all the early seasons. People don't believe we went to the moon because NASA "accidentally" erased the tapes, so why should we believe some gay-ass show for fags once existed before Star Trek, also a gay-ass show for fags?

They erased like half of a few seasons. A half of which has been recovered/animated since. And they did it to all BBC products because that was just policy at the time.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised you don't believe we went to the moon, given the 25% different bullshit you tried to peddle.

[Guest]

He says, knowing full well that Star Trek has an actual reputation for preachiness.

Who said anything about preachiness? A show isn't good or bad based purely on preachiness furfag. Every core aspect of Dr. Who is ridiculous and lame.

well, if your problem are shows that take themselves too seriously...
And you'll have to be more specific with the lameness. Is it the character's human appereance(*cough* pointy ears and a neverending list of head ridge designs *cough*)? Is it the fact that he doesn't bother to fix his timeship's disguise, which is... perfectly natural? Is it the bigger on the inside thing, which Star Trek itself used?

Everything that's a bit goofy about Dr Who, Trek is equally guilty. We are talking about the show that once claimed humans would evolve back into lizards if they travelled too fast, let's not forget.

And that episode is widely considered to be shit. Not a great comparison.

Star Trek doesn't have a main character who completely changes appearance and personality all the time but is somehow the same character because he's a reincarnating immortal time traveling alien who's fighting another reincarnating immortal time traveling alien who does the same thing. Mary Sue much? Besides, how are you supposed to get invested in this character who basically can't die, but also doesn't even have a consistent personality? Nobody in Star Trek disguises their ship as something that exists in Bongland and absolutely nowhere else and keeps it looking like that while travelling through time and space. And while Trek did occasionally use techno jargon to solve problems, they didn't have one little pocket tool that could solve literally any problem they encountered. Then there are the main villains: sentient garbage cans and statues that kill you if you don't look at them. LoLwhat? The Weeping Angels were the original creepypasta monster.

BTW, you're arguing with two different guestfags, Rushy. Even a moon landing hoaxer knows Dr. Who is shit.

[Rushy]

And that episode is widely considered to be shit. Not a great comparison.

Star Trek doesn't have a main character who completely changes appearance and personality all the time but is somehow the same character because he's a reincarnating immortal time traveling alien who's fighting another reincarnating immortal time traveling alien who does the same thing. Mary Sue much? Besides, how are you supposed to get invested in this character who basically can't die, but also doesn't even have a consistent personality? Nobody in Star Trek disguises their ship as something that exists in Bongland and absolutely nowhere else and keeps it looking like that while travelling through time and space. And while Trek did occasionally use techno jargon to solve problems, they didn't have one little pocket tool that could solve literally any problem they encountered. Then there are the main villains: sentient garbage cans and statues that kill you if you don't look at them. LoLwhat? The Weeping Angels were the original creepypasta monster.

BTW, you're arguing with two different guestfags, Rushy. Even a moon landing hoaxer knows Dr. Who is shit.

Okay, first of all. The dude's a fucking scientist and every one of his people can time travel and reincarnate, so that's hardly Mary Sue.
How can I get invested in a character who can't die? Well, regeneration basically has the same function dramatically. You're not really required to be invested in the Doctor in his entirety, he's just a role filled by many actors, all of whom work hard to regain the interest you lost when the previous actor left.

The reason why he disguises his ship like that is simply because's he's an eccentric. Some people like owning weird-ass cars, he's one of them.

"Occasionally". Trek uses techno jargon practically every episode, more so as time went on. Same with Dr Who. Dude barely whipped it once per season for 26 years, it's only really in New Who that it's become prevalent, and that's only because the show has to establish an entirely new setting every episode(unlike Trek, which was always set in one time and mostly within the Federation) and needs to speed things up a bit.

"Sentient garbage cans" are space Nazis in armored tanks. You're right about the statues though, they are overrated, not among my favourites.

Guestposters are all the same.

[da PAC Nigguh]

BTW, you're arguing with two different guestfags, Rushy. Even a moon landing hoaxer knows Dr. Who is shit.

Why waste time arguing at all? He's still bent up over the licensing stipulations and he won't believe a thing unless its spoonfed PR coming directly from CBS Marketing.

[Rushy]

BTW, you're arguing with two different guestfags, Rushy. Even a moon landing hoaxer knows Dr. Who is shit.

Why waste time arguing at all? He's still bent up over the licensing stipulations and he won't believe a thing unless its spoonfed PR coming directly from CBS Marketing.

I might honestly have bought it if it wasn't for the 25% different thing. That is some Chris-Chan levels of what-the-fuckery.

[VoiceOfReasonPast]

I think Doctor Who would be servicable as a kids show. Unfortunately it's taking itself too seriously.

She was an insane-o from day one-o, an inbred whore who existed to be holes but somehow fucked her way into owning an army and some dragons. As much as I hate GOT, turning her into a psycho once she has near-absolute power feels like the right choice to me. Wasn't her granddad or something an insane person who had to be put down?

Also she has been repeatedly shown to have issues taking over a place without mass murder by dragon fire. She basically fucks up every civilization she comes across. If she didn't happen to free a bunch of slaves in the process she would've already been a complete monster since Season 3 or so.

[Rushy]

I think Doctor Who would be servicable as a kids show. Unfortunately it's taking itself too seriously.

It pretty much was always a kids show in the same vein as The Hobbit - occasionally dark and sad, but overall with a frivolous adventurous tone. It's only really the newer stuff that tried and failed and then entirely retconned a war veteran arc.

[Kugelfisch]

BTW, you're arguing with two different guestfags, Rushy. Even a moon landing hoaxer knows Dr. Who is shit.

Why waste time arguing at all? He's still bent up over the licensing stipulations and he won't believe a thing unless its spoonfed PR coming directly from CBS Marketing.

I might honestly have bought it if it wasn't for the 25% different thing. That is some Chris-Chan levels of what-the-fuckery.

And yet you're still wrong, no matter if you "buy it" or not. It's contractually not allowed to be canon and so it isn't.
The fuck do you even care? You seem to not like Star Trek in the first place. Is your need to be a contrarian piece of shit so strong you need to argue against facts?

[Rushy]

The fuck do you even care? You seem to not like Star Trek in the first place. Is your need to be a contrarian piece of shit so strong you need to argue against facts?

What makes you think I don't like Star Trek? Star Trek's great.

[Kugelfisch]

What makes you think I don't like Star Trek? Star Trek's great.

The above posts by you about how Doctor Who is great and Trek is stupid.