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Re: Fighting Games

Posted: Thu Jul 15, 2021 8:10 pm
by Moe Bitches
Le Redditeur wrote:
Thu Jul 15, 2021 7:56 pm
Will that game's rooster include Nickelodeon's best character. Dan "The Man With the Unmarked Van" Schneider?

Re: Fighting Games

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 3:50 am
by mad bum
LMAO

Re: Fighting Games

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:11 am
by VoiceOfReasonPast
Weren't they trying to do it online last year?

Re: Fighting Games

Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:33 pm
by Kugelfisch
VoiceOfReasonPast wrote:
Thu Sep 30, 2021 5:11 am
Weren't they trying to do it online last year?
Yeah, kinda. That was a big flop not worth getting into.

Re: Fighting Games

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 2:03 am
by mad bum
Because almost all fighting games have shit netcode because Japan is a bunch of xenophobic fucks who only think about themselves.
>lol the connection is fine on our tiny island, we don't need rollback let's use shitty delay based netcode.

Re: Fighting Games

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 4:32 am
by rabidtictac
Japs don't even own fighting games, they just play them at arcades.

Re: Fighting Games

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 4:47 am
by Le Redditeur
Which is the only correct way to enjoy muh figtans.

Re: Fighting Games

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 3:31 pm
by VoiceOfReasonPast
My interest in the new Melty Blood dropped a lot after I found out they've removed all (or most) OC characters, aka the ones I actually liked (most importantly Sion and Night of Wallachia).
Also no Nero because apparently he got written out of the Tsukihime reboot thingie.

Re: Fighting Games

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 10:52 pm
by Poonoo
mad bum wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 2:03 am
Because almost all fighting games have shit netcode because Japan is a bunch of xenophobic fucks who only think about themselves.
>lol the connection is fine on our tiny island, we don't need rollback let's use shitty delay based netcode.
It's more of a case that they won't use Baka Gaijin GGPO and they would rather do it themselves which was garbage in Street Fighter 5. Arc Sys seems to have listened so all the bitching might have actually paid off, especially with Covid revealing just how shit fighting games are without in person tournaments.

Re: Fighting Games

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2021 11:38 pm
by rabidtictac
Poonoo wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 10:52 pm
Covid revealing just how shit fighting games are without in person tournaments.
Yep. If you're not able to play with regulars (either using stable online or in-person) then fightan gaymes lose a lot of their appeal. Part of this is the problem of the developers not providing single-player content with good AI for their games. "Good AI" in this case meaning AI that mimics player behavior. Older fightan games like Tekken 6 and Virtua Fighter 4 Evo used to do this. Modern fightan gayes are too preoccupied with trying to sell themselves as a faggy live service, so they give only a bare shell of modes (that all suck) to play alone.

Imagine if you could play a fighting game solo and actually learn skills while having fun. That almost never happens. Sure, an AI can never play exactly like a human, but most fightan games don't even fucking try. Fighting and racing games can both make use of replays in crafting ai that behaves in a humanlike way. But they'd rather tack on a shit "story" modo with AI that reads inputs, so single play is as useless as possible.

I've been getting back into shmups and beat em ups because they have that depth and intensity that fighting games have, but are single-player experiences primarily.