Soystation 5 General

[Kugelfisch]

That's because those fuckers that make those games would rather make movies and it shows.
Yet another reason for Scam Citizen being so expensive for being so unfinished. You think Gary Oldman offered a friendly rate? How about Mark Hamil, who not even Lucas Arts had do motion capture work?

[rabidtictac]

Explain what makes The Last of Us good using only the gameplay in your examples. Imagine the game was a wireframe or minimalist gameplay-only experience like Superhot. What would the gameplay consist of? What would make the game good?

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My answer would obviously be: nothing. The game is shit. If you reduced it to a minimalist design, removed all the expensive actor likenesses, mocap, scenery porn and EBIN ROLLER COASTER SET PIECES, you'd be left with very little. Most of the game, you walk in a straight line from point A to point B while text scrolls on the screen (if you have subtitles on.) Sometimes, you reach an impasse, where you must pick up an item, walk it to a context-sensitive zone and activate it to resume walking while text scrolls. Other times, you're placed in a straight line or arena, given a little bit of ammo or weaponry and told to either kill shit or run past shit until you reach the arbitrary cutoff point. At which time, cutscenes start up again and then you continue walking while text scrolls. Sometimes, instead of walking in a straight line while text scrolls, you crawl while listening to generic zombie growls. You don't need to imagine the minimalist graphical style for these sections, since TLOU already helpfully puts the game into a dogshit visual mode you are required to use to progress (batman vision.)

When you encounter an enemy in TLOU, sometimes they are normal enemies that can damage you. Other times they can kill you instantly. Instant death is always a sign of fantastic design. And it works very well, since the instant death enemies can run quickly.

I would talk more about resources and how the game hates the player/encourages not engaging with combat, but it's pointless when the majority of your time is spent walking in a straight line while text scrolls.

My point is just that it's obvious where all the money went in TLOU. Gameplay is piss-poor because naughty dog spent no time or money on it. Good point of evidence in favor of my argument is how the AI was dramatically worse than what was promised. To the point they made Ellie both invisible and invincible, since they couldn't figure out how to tard-wrangle her AI.

[VoiceOfReasonPast]

But you get to see two lesbians making out.

Also Detective Mode is the cancer that is killing stealth games. Why can't they rip off Silent Storm, where you have indicators of the enemies' rough location based on the noise the make?

[Guest]

But you get to see two lesbians making out.

Yah I'm sure everyone mocking it with memes did wonders for the games rep.

That's because those fuckers that make those games would rather make movies and it shows.

...it's obvious where all the money went in TLOU. Gameplay is piss-poor because naughty dog spent no time or money on it. Good point of evidence in favor of my argument is how the AI was dramatically worse than what was promised. To the point they made Ellie both invisible and invincible, since they couldn't figure out how to tard-wrangle her AI.

If anime (as Miyazaki said) is full of "human beings who hate looking at human beings" then Gaming is filled with people who HATE the fact that they make games!

[VoiceOfReasonPast]

Western comic artists hate looking at human beings. That's why they draw them as fugly as possible.
Meanwhile the based Japanese draw fair maiden with more beauty and grace than is possible in real life.

the comic book version for extra lulzShow

They don't call her "Carl Manvers" for nothing.

[Guest]

*Weaboo dick sucking noises*

That's nice dear!

[Guest]

If anime (as Miyazaki said) is full of "human beings who hate looking at human beings" then Gaming is filled with people who HATE the fact that they make games!

Some one finally fucking said It!

Everyone the industry now either loathes the medium and are just trying to cash it's recent popularity, or uses it as a footstool to get into Hollywood, Or if their stories is some how to shit for even Hollywood to handle they just go videao bames and make through that, since "gamers" are either too retarded to tell if the stories is shit, or are so despite to have the medium considered an art form that the accept whatever garbage is shoved down their throats.

And it's not like gaming can't tell stories or be art, but having 60 hours of cutscenes with little to no interactivity in between only drive the medium Backwards instead of Forwards!

[VoiceOfReasonPast]

Don't forget these highly-immersive sections where you are forced to walk slowly while your character has an overly long conversation with someone. It's like a real movie!

[Kugelfisch]

*Weaboo dick sucking noises*

That's nice dear!

Sad thing is that I think he actually believes it.

[Guest]

*Weaboo dick sucking noises*

That's nice dear!

Sad thing is that I think he actually believes it.

You think? Once the animu plague runs it course the weaboo has no cure.