Team Fag Star

[VoiceOfReasonPast]

It's a bit like how early JoJo parts liked to skip a generation, making grandfathers way more integral to the plot than actual fathers.

[Old Black Man]

I hate that they never explored Bardock’s past as a brilliant scientist. Wasted potential.

[VoiceOfReasonPast]

His waifu was pretty cute, too.
Guess at least he got killed hard enough to travel back in time.

[Old Black Man]

Gine? Yeah wish Goku could meet her somehow in some goofy DB way.

[vegetasasuke0]

Gine? Yeah wish Goku could meet her somehow in some goofy DB way.

I prefer Fasha over Gine, because Toriyama can't write for shit and a lot of the good parts were parts pressured by either his editor or another outside entity. TFS are an example of people who think Toriyama is a genius who can do no wrong, unless it is a glaring plothole that they have to fix in their dub.

[VoiceOfReasonPast]

Him and editors were one hell of a relationship. There's no way in hell it has always been his grand master plan to suddenly drop his Terminator ripoff plot in favor of a literal bugman from some third timeline.
The Cell Saga was the fucking beginning of the end. Fite me IRL if you think otherwise.

[vegetasasuke0]

Him and editors were one hell of a relationship. There's no way in hell it has always been his grand master plan to suddenly drop his Terminator ripoff plot in favor of a literal bugman from some third timeline.
The Cell Saga was the fucking beginning of the end. Fite me IRL if you think otherwise.

But...But..But bugman is funny! I don't know man, I hate the decision making of that arc more than anything, "was Krillin to blame? Was it Vegeta?" Fuck man if Tien could almost kill Cell with the Tri-Beam, then he could have used them to stun the androids and Piccolo could special beam cannon them. But this is anime, logic isn't a writer's strong suit.

[Le Redditeur]

That assumes the Z Warriors weren't all suffering from concussive brain damage.

[VoiceOfReasonPast]

Fuck man if Tien could almost kill Cell with the Tri-Beam, then he could have used them to stun the androids and Piccolo could special beam cannon them.

[Kugelfisch]

DB power levels are the biggest lie ever. Shonenshit power levels are as flexible as the writer needs them to be.