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Re: Pumping iron

Post by Kugelfisch » Fri Mar 27, 2020 6:12 am

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Re: Pumping iron

Post by AdorableOtter » Sun Mar 29, 2020 7:31 am

Moe Bitches wrote:
Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:40 am
So it something I've been doing lately, but I have to ask, is it a good idea to drink protein before bed? I'm taking advantage of the fact that I have a home gym with a treadmill and some weights along with a punching bag.
Eating wise I've been having tons of meat like beef jerky, steak, burgers and other foods like eggs, peanut butter, some plant protein, sardines, salmon, etc. Last time I checked I weighed between 172 and 179.
>protein when

I got curious because it's always been a controversial subject with no conclusive anything at all, but maybe there is new emerging evidence now. HYPE
https://examine.com/nutrition/second-look-at-protein-quantity-after-exercise/ wrote: Q. Is it important to ingest protein immediately after training?
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Ingesting protein right after training may or may not be absolutely necessary, but it can’t hurt.
Basically what Kugel said. Maybe it works if you snort it before bed, maybe or maybe not. Protein is still full of mysteries.

>punching bag

Do you have some combat sports experience or are you just randomly punching like a kangaroo for 100% pure recreational purposes? I'd argue punching/kicking anything is objectively better exercise than boring as fuck jogging but if you're a kangaroo you can develop bad habits.

>peanut

It's okay if you're just snacking but peanut is kinda shit nutrition source because of relatively high anti-nutrient contents. If you're trying to increase the caloric intake, stick to starchy carb OR quality fat (but NOT both because human body acts weird when you mix high fat and high carb, you have to pick one).

>plant protein

I'd rather avoid them unless it's non-GMO fermented ones like natto/tempe in moderation. Plant protein has always some questionable shit attached to it, things like phyto-estrogen , oxalate or herbicides/pesticides/whatever-cide. Also, they are unnecessary if you are eating enough meat/fish/egg anyway.

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Re: Pumping iron

Post by Moe Bitches » Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:28 am

Kicking and punching is all in the mind whenever I took karate for half of my life, but that's not really going to do jack shit in a real fight. But I thought it was needed hours before you exercise.

The plant protein was something that I was skeptical about. It said you needed to mix it with water and let it sit for thirty minutes, but in the end it tasted like shit. I tried it with milk and it tasted better.
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Re: Pumping iron

Post by AdorableOtter » Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:27 pm

Moe Bitches wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 8:28 am
Kicking and punching is all in the mind whenever I took karate for half of my life, but that's not really going to do jack shit in a real fight. But I thought it was needed hours before you exercise.

The plant protein was something that I was skeptical about. It said you needed to mix it with water and let it sit for thirty minutes, but in the end it tasted like shit. I tried it with milk and it tasted better.
Plant based anything is tricky generally speaking. People tend have this idea of vegetables being "healthy" but the science behind it is actually kinda weak, even New Soy Times mentioned that even though they generally push soyboy diet (while bitching on how cow is bad for climate ofc). tl;dr studies on clean non-processed meat heavy diet is lacking, also the methods of studies themselves are often problematic

Highly processed / refined plant food is quite new in human history we don't if they are actually good or not. Even something common like table sugar can do some wacky stuff like changing brain chemistry, I would be careful around those things if I were you.

>Kara-teh

Traditional or full contact? Have you ever met Grand Master JacksonJin?

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Re: Pumping iron

Post by Kugelfisch » Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:49 pm

Vegetables are good for you. Weird plant pulp with five dozen additives you need a degree in chemistry for to pronounce most likely isn't. But as always a well balanced diet is best.
Food is also important for the soul. A nice mixed salad with some cucumber, tomatoes, red onion, some olive oil and balsamico di modena. Followed half an hour later with a nice steak and some green beans wrapped in bundles with a small strip of bacon and pan fried. If that's not good for you then life isn't worth living.
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Re: Pumping iron

Post by AdorableOtter » Tue Mar 31, 2020 12:45 am

>Vegetables are good for you.

That's just not true, it's more like "some vegetables are harmless but some are pretty bad". Some vegetables are straight up bad, really.
For example lots of people believe spinach is healthy and nutrient rich, but that shit is also rich in oxalate. Oxalate binds to minerals and the end product (some form of oxalate salt) goes through your gut and pop out as shit. Mineral mal-absorption ladies and gentlemen.
You can reduce the oxalate content by boiling/steaming, but the problem is other nutrients goes away or gets destroyed too, what remains is mostly fiber. What's the point of eating just fiber? (A: we don't know) Not to mention high amount of oxalate can causes other issues like joint pain or kidney stones.

I still eat plant but I abandoned "vegetables is healthy" mindset some time ago. Just think about how many plants in plant species are edible for human, compared to how many animal species are. It's just humanity has hand selected, modified and processed plants to be edible/harmless. We shouldn't forget plants are toxic by nature (except for fruits) just try eating raw kidney beans if REALLY think vegetables are good. (don't, lol)

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Re: Pumping iron

Post by Guest » Tue Mar 31, 2020 7:27 am

Inverse veganism is just as stupid as veganism.

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