God Emperor Megathread (Trump and his presidency)

[Pepsi Man]

So nothing new, then.

[RAPEMAN]

What America should take note is how much Mexico doesn't give a fuck. They put in no effort to help their own citizens obtain their children from the states. Why? Because they don't want them.

[mad bum]

What America should take note is how much Mexico doesn't give a fuck. They put in no effort to help their own citizens obtain their children from the states. Why? Because they don't want them.

Yep, people should maybe blame mexico and how much of a shitty country it is over EVIL DRUMPH.

[RAPEMAN]

You can't expect Mexicans to Make Mexico Great Again by allowing all their oppressed people to move stateside. They will never revolt if they have the side option of opting out of their own nation's problems. Also, an open boarder allows cartels into the states to setup proxy towns to do their dirty business. Dems want to ban guns? Then you can't have an open boarder. Porous boarders are what allows bad people like the Taliban to survive in neighbouring countries like Turkmenistan and Pakistan. A line has to be drawn. They need to reform the idea Jus soli, we're not in Rome anymore.

[rabidtictac]

What America should take note is how much Mexico doesn't give a fuck. They put in no effort to help their own citizens obtain their children from the states. Why? Because they don't want them.

They give out pamphlets over there on how to successfully illegally immigrate to America. Mexico's goal is to dump all their poor on us rather than to put any effort into helping them. Mexico is corrupt to the core.

We should honestly just take them over. We have a bloated military budget so why not. Send army in, kill all the cartel fucks, bomb the shit out of the poor just like we did in the middle east (only this time MAYBE PEOPLE WILL CARE) and then bingo bango bongo we own Mexico, welcome to the united states. Now we can't export cheap shit over there and make sweat shops. The cartel can't operate any more freely there than any other state in the country. They can't buy officials or own towns anymore. Mexicans won't illegally immigrate here because they'll all be processed and made legal citizens and they can work down there in their own cities with America's social safety net.

It isn't like mexico can't build shit or doesn't have natural resources. America would benefit. Obviously the current gray area bullshit rules are very convenient for corrupt american businesses that want cheap slave labor just on the other side of the border, but fuck those guys.

We need a military approach to the cartels anyway. Bullet to the back of the head, every one, until none are left. Roll over their shithouse adobe buildings with an M1 Abrams.

There are two kinds of people in Mexico: super rich and super poor. And fuck the super rich because they're the corrupt ones causing all this problem.

[Keith Chegwin]

Mexicans won't illegally immigrate here because they'll all be processed and made legal citizens and they can work down there in their own cities with America's social safety net.

I was with you until this part. This is exactly what you don't want. You don't want millions of Mexicans becoming legal citizens, legally influencing US government and having freedom of movement throughout the entire United States. That's the whole point of sending them back to their country and keeping a strong border in the first place. If you incorporate Mexico into the United States you'll just get a bunch of new, block Democrat voting states.

[rabidtictac]

Mexicans won't illegally immigrate here because they'll all be processed and made legal citizens and they can work down there in their own cities with America's social safety net.

I was with you until this part. This is exactly what you don't want. You don't want millions of Mexicans becoming legal citizens, legally influencing US government and having freedom of movement throughout the entire United States. That's the whole point of sending them back to their country and keeping a strong border in the first place. If you incorporate Mexico into the United States you'll just get a bunch of new, block Democrat voting states.

We'll see. I don't think you understand quite how it is here.

See, if the democrats are the only ones who embrace giving illegals citizenship, then the democrats win the mexican voting block forever.

But on the other hand, if we take over Mexico and make it part of the USA, every mexican citizen becomes a citizen of the USA. They do not have to apply for citizenship. They only have to prove that they are Mexican citizens and therefore accorded all the rights as US citizens.

And if this is done under a conservative leader like Trump, it will one hundred percent cut the rug out from under the DNC. You see, mexicans are much more socially conservative than white westerners. If you give them US citizenship, access to jobs and social safety nets they can use legally, and you do all this under a conservative package, there is no reason for them to ever vote democrat. Mexicans don't like gays any more than blacks do.

Now it would possibly, quite possibly, impact the economy negatively to have so many new low-income workers. But that's happening right fucking now. Piece by piece, we are ruining our economy by importing so much cheap illegal labor. If we legalize it all, they cannot charge less for their wages than the minimum wage. And we gain all the resources of mexico, which can then be managed by american infrastructure and interests. We can manage mexican parks, public works, utilities and nature resources. I think the gain would be enough to offset any losses.

And if the conflict is a military one, we gain there too. Because we would spend a lot of money on military shit that is produced locally.

I saw some post about "we should take over canada too" when I was googling, and I disagree there. Canada has a strong social safety net and decent economy despite all its shitlib garbage. We don't need to pacify them to protect ourselves. But I think a case can be made we should take Mexico out of its corrupt rulers' hands and make it a state of the USA. We push the cartels further down into south and central america, (into choke points), we remove corruption, we institute better infrastructure, we start building up Mexico and we stabilize their country.

Even democrats can agree with this, since they love illegals so much. This makes all illegals legal in exchange for natural resources, land and governance. Conservatives can feel good because we can put up our wall even further south and we have that many more resources to exploit for profit. If Fox won't Make Mexico Great Again, Trump should.

IMO it's shameful that one of our neighbors is basically a third-world shithole living right next to us. Giving them a bunch of free shit would do nothing since the corrupt government would hoard it all for themselves. So let's just conquer their asses.

[Keith Chegwin]

We'll see. I don't think you understand quite how it is here.

I understand just fine.

And if this is done under a conservative leader like Trump, it will one hundred percent cut the rug out from under the DNC. You see, mexicans are much more socially conservative than white westerners. If you give them US citizenship, access to jobs and social safety nets they can use legally, and you do all this under a conservative package, there is no reason for them to ever vote democrat. Mexicans don't like gays any more than blacks do.

You're falling into the cuckservative trap. You're under the illusion that hispanics are all 'natural conservatives' because of their Christianity and will therefore vote Republican if incentives like amnesty and legal citizenship are taken away from the Democrats. Let me tell you that Black people, generally speaking, do not agree with probably 90% of the Democrat manifesto. A lot of black voters are heavily religious. They don't like gays or transsexuals, they don't particularly like political correctness. Proposition 8 passed in California, probably the most liberal state in the United States, because of black voters in Oakland, Compton and other places. Yet they vote Democrat almost solidly. Why? Because of welfare programs and affirmative action and other initiatives that are basically sustaining the black population.

The Mexicans are going to do exactly the same thing. Why? Because they don't give a shit about America. They don't care about American law, culture, values or customs. They can't even be bothered to learn the fucking language. The only reason they care about America, the only reason they want to come to America, is for the free money. They want handouts and they are not going to vote for the party that wants to take them away.

Now it would possibly, quite possibly, impact the economy negatively to have so many new low-income workers. But that's happening right fucking now. Piece by piece, we are ruining our economy by importing so much cheap illegal labor. If we legalize it all, they cannot charge less for their wages than the minimum wage.

In which case businesses will export jobs to China or India, like they've been doing, and all you'll get is a bunch of poor people who are now unemployed and therefore have to be provided for by the state.

And we gain all the resources of mexico, which can then be managed by american infrastructure and interests. We can manage mexican parks, public works, utilities and nature resources. I think the gain would be enough to offset any losses.

You're talking about resources that have been fucked by decades, maybe even centuries, of corrupt Mexican government. Who knows if there's anything of value there. If the United States takes over all the parks, beaches, etc, they'll probably have to spend a ton of money to bring it up to environmental code amongst other hassles, and for what? It will probably take years for the United States to make back their investment, if they ever do.

And if the conflict is a military one, we gain there too. Because we would spend a lot of money on military shit that is produced locally.

The Mexicans have one tank. The United States isn't going to need to spend much to build new armaments to maintain a war in Mexico both because they have basically no army and because Mexico being on the same continent means it would cost a lot less than it did to go to Iraq to maintain a US military force there.

But I think a case can be made we should take Mexico out of its corrupt rulers' hands and make it a state of the USA. We push the cartels further down into south and central america, (into choke points), we remove corruption, we institute better infrastructure, we start building up Mexico and we stabilize their country.

Then you've created the same problem. No, you've created a worse problem than what you had before. All those cartels and criminals are still going to cross the border into US. You've still got illegal migrant workers who businesses will employ because it's cheap. But now you've got an entire nation putting massive strain on the taxpayers in the United States, as you'd be supporting the impoverished Mexicans, few of whom will pay taxes and almost none of whom will pay enough tax to cover the burden of building up their country, their infrastructure and giving welfare to the Mexicans who now can't find work. The US would go into collapse, more-or-less overnight

Even democrats can agree with this

Democrats are idiots. The last ten years should have told you this.

IMO it's shameful that one of our neighbors is basically a third-world shithole living right next to us.

It's their fault their country is so shit.

Bottom line, military intervention is going to end up being what it's going to take for Mexicans to stay on their side but it should remain their side. Only a fool would want to incorporate Mexico into the United States when a simple 'regime change' is all that's needed for them to respect American laws.

[rabidtictac]

What I meant with the cartels is go in with the army and roll over their houses with tanks until every one of them is dead. Thought I made that clear. It's gonna be hard for them to immigrate from the grave bro. The ones that are left we push further down into central america and establish the new drug trade borders way further south.

As it stands now, we don't do that because the corrupt mexicans own all that land and we don't have the right in peacetime to bulldoze entire neighborhoods and line people up against walls.

There's always something of value wherever there's property. The mexican government is corrupt and incompetent. Not that we're not incompetent, but we're not as flagrantly corrupt in that sense and we have the infrastructure to develop more shit than they could. Even if the entire country was a stinking landfill with only toxic waste in it, you can use nuclear waste and stuff like that to power batteries and do weird stuff. But Mexico has resources that would be worth having.

Some hispanics would be welfare queens but they clearly have a work ethic which is why they all come over here and a lot of them work for $2 an hour in the hot sun picking fruit or mowing lawns. Give them a life where they make $10 an hour with all the rights of a citizen and then tell them they don't need to bow down and kiss the feet of tumblr freaks and they won't be shit on for believing in a religion. Mexicans are not a 1:1 of black people.

Part of the reason I believe the DNC is pushing so hard to secure the mexican vote is because of the precedent they set with the black vote and because they know very well mexicans have the potential to swing to the right. Take away obvious self-interest issues like deportation and all the democrats can offer are gibs, which many hard-working mexicans may not want. Also, there's no reparations issue with mexicans for them to milk. Mexicans are descendants of spanish invaders just like we are descendants of english, french, dutch and german invaders. We are all colonizers. Spain was once Great and we can make mexico Great too.

[Pepsi Man]

Reminder that legally immigrated Mexicans are far more against illegal immigration than your average white person. To the point that it's comical.