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Re: Women's Rights caused everything wrong with the West

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 4:54 pm
by VoiceOfReasonPast
That asteroid should check its privilege, instead of entering out safe space without our consent.

Re: Women's Rights caused everything wrong with the West

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 5:21 pm
by Le Redditeur
Jewnoo, to you points are fine, however, there's an aspect that you're not considering about the convenience of having a stay-at-home housewife to sustain: modern domestic appliances made her job obsolete. Colttaine actually makes a good argument for this:



Also, the sad reality of the stay-at-home housewife:



I find the arguments compelling, mostly because I'm used to do my own housekeeping and, frankly, wouldn't pay for a woman to do it full time for me. Technology made her useless and, worse yet, much easier for her to cheat on you. Fuck that noise.

Re: Women's Rights caused everything wrong with the West

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:35 am
by Tony Schiavone
It's kind of an argument for having lots of kids fast. Suddenly your life is filled with constant attention. It teaches women to adequately multitask. You forget that they mainly want to socialize and take with other women. Being around other women in play groups or whatever helps fill a lot more of the time.


As for religion. Dawkins et al. said people would naturally gravitate towards 'humanism.' The problem was that it was defined around existing common social norms instead of moral absolutes. That means it could change based on what was considered 'rational academia'--which sure enough backfired when universities and professors went SJW loopy. Given that it could be defined through anything once popular enough, it turned on its creators.

It also lacked a lot of things humans are built in to need, like rituals, customs, habits, and so on. A lot of SJWs and other weirdos started to make or redefine them. Even now, you see protest marches almost like a ritualized weekly habit with these leftists. [It's also telling that lesbian/tranny weddings really arent much different ceremony-wise from the real thing.]

Anyway, women are hard-wired genetically to be more predisposed to religion. Just Interney search and you'll find plenty of studies.
Our ancestors figured this out years ago; it's how you could convince a group of 20s somethings to commit to being Vestal Virgins and nuns for life.

Re: Women's Rights caused everything wrong with the West

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:41 am
by Guest
Women want stupid things.
They're holding us back.

Re: Women's Rights caused everything wrong with the West

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:13 am
by Just Some Random Guy
Poonoo wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:54 am
If there was a "Like" button on this forum I'd consider making another account just to Like this post twice.

Re: Women's Rights caused everything wrong with the West

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:44 am
by Poonoo
Le Redditeur wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 5:21 pm
Jewnoo, to you points are fine, however, there's an aspect that you're not considering about the convenience of having a stay-at-home housewife to sustain: modern domestic appliances made her job obsolete.
That's what I meant by this:
Poonoo wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:54 am
But the scary thing is that this was inevitable with technology. Women had no reason to work long ago anyway since most jobs were manual labour and before that most people worked on farms. Technology made housework insanely easy, it was no longer a full time job to be a mother and most of the jobs were blue collar labour jobs. Those ones are still over 95% male like before, the rise in office work lead to more women in the workforce too since many of them would want to contribute to the home with nothing to do otherwise so more women working was always going to happen.
Should have been more specific about what I meant by technology but yes, in the 1920s these changes were already happening gradually despite feminists telling you it was Shariah Law until they came along in the 60s as your first video showed.
Just Some Random Guy wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:13 am
Poonoo wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 9:54 am
If there was a "Like" button on this forum I'd consider making another account just to Like this post twice.
Lucky I got rid of that upboat shit that was on by default so we don't turn into reddit or the farms. :lol:

Re: Women's Rights caused everything wrong with the West

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:03 am
by RedLine
Le Redditeur wrote:
Sun Dec 15, 2019 5:21 pm

Also, the sad reality of the stay-at-home housewife:
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I find the arguments compelling, mostly because I'm used to do my own housekeeping.
Didn't care for the video. He really handwaves away the "raising kids" part of being a stay-at-home parent. Letting the government and day care centers have control over development of your kids is a very bad idea and the existence of a washing machine or microwave has nothing to do with those consequences. Hell at this point setting up homeschooling until 7th or 8th grade is likely a good move.
He also ignores that most traditional families are created through a mutual desire, the wife generally isn't unilaterally making a plan to be a domestic welfare leech and the husbands I know with stay-at-home wives lose their shit if she expresses any interest in working.
And, women will have ample opportunities to cheat whether they spend the day at home or at GloboCo.

Re: Women's Rights caused everything wrong with the West

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:55 am
by Poonoo
RedLine wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:03 am
He really handwaves away the "raising kids" part of being a stay-at-home parent.
I noticed that too, it's my only real problem with his videos. He acts as if married couples are all childless, because when you look at it purely economically he is right, men get fucked over. That is why I like RGE's idea of women popping out kids before starting their careers, when women are young they will have maternity leave gaps and will want to be around their kids more when they are infants. That shit is biological and innate and is why women love little cute things like puppies. But once the all kids are able to go to school that is when she should start studying and working since there is no need to be a stay at home mother when the kids are not at home. The only exception would be the mother homeschooling the kids or if the dad is so insanely rich that the mother's income is by comparison is so fucking small she may as well not work. Like a guy earning $1,000,000 a year and her earning $40,000, what's the fucking point unless she really loves the job?
RedLine wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 3:03 am
He also ignores that most traditional families are created through a mutual desire, the wife generally isn't unilaterally making a plan to be a domestic welfare leech and the husbands I know with stay-at-home wives lose their shit if she expresses any interest in working.
A lot of people innately like the trad thing biologically. When the blonde chick from Big Bang Theory said she liked the idea of a man coming from home while she prepares a meal feminists got shitty at her and made her apologise. It's why men who work at home struggle since biologically the female lizard brain is saying "why is he not hunting and gathering resources? what a lazy prick?" even if he is earning decent money. It's also why stay at home dads are a joke and it never works out and why women are not as happy as they were decades ago.
the wife generally isn't unilaterally making a plan to be a domestic welfare leech
This is one thing that shits me about MGTOWs, they assume every woman is a scheming cunt just waiting to divorce a man and take all of his money. A woman liking a tall , broad shouldered man with a good job is like a guy liking a young, fit chick with big tits, it isn't a conscience decision and we don't know why we like it but we do. Most guys aren't thinking "these larger tits will mean she will be able to store more milk for my child's sustenance and her youth means I will have a greater chance at reproduction" and despite what MGTOWs think most women aren't looking at a guy and think "this tall man will provide me with money, physical protection and resources so I can buy all the shit that I want". Only a small minority of very shitty people consciously think like this unironically, this crap is going on in the lizard brain.

Sorry, that pessimistic shit aspect of MGTOW is 100% mommy issues, a lot of what has happened with women being less desirable is biological and unintentional in response to our environment changing faster than our brains can evolve. And with automation becoming a thing leading to more people (in particular men) working from home it may get even worse.

Re: Women's Rights caused everything wrong with the West

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:28 am
by Guest
Nah all women are scheming cunts, at best they're just not all running a divorce scam.

Re: Women's Rights caused everything wrong with the West

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:06 am
by Le Redditeur
The thing is, you never know WHEN will she turn into a scheming cunt during a relationship - but it is almost inevitable unless you're willing to play the game of providing her with whatever commodity she wants at a time (usually a combination of money, attention, and subservience).

MGTOW is very pessimistic with its views on women, yes. But can you fault them for it? Just look at women in general. Everybody knows at least a dozen stories of relationship nightmare caused by women. Men's flavor of relationship nightmare is usually being obsessive and/or jealous and overprotective, which is also something that MGTOW sees as a problem and tries to warn men against. The problem is that the idea of MGTOW is inherently tied to "red pill rage" - when men first realize how little women (and therefore society in general) cares about them. Them you have dozens of posts from guys complaining about women, not yet at the mental state to realize that they have the power to avoid the rage and the problems that come with it by simply ignoring women. Not to mention that many men will never be able to fully completely ignore women, no one can just decide to be a celibate if it isn't part of his nature.

Sure, RGEs idea of women having their kids first and their careers later is very compelling, but I'm pretty sure they would not be happy with it. Because they're never truly happy. I can see them at 25 complaining that they had to marry the first dork she meet when she was "young and naive", about how she never got to really "enjoy her youth", and how she won't be held by a fucking loser - and then acting exactly like they do right now.

It will never work, because satisfying women is a lose-lose proposition. Just let them cause their own misery and then wallow on it. Kill white knights who try to help them, those are the ducks causing all the problems.