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Post by rabidtictac » Tue Apr 06, 2021 11:04 am

All that would do is ensure the global working poor are fucked even harder, while multinational corporations continue to exploit legal loopholes to pay no tax year after year.

Reminder: If you want the rich corporations to pay their fair share, it's not about implementing new taxes or increasing the tax rate. It's about closing the loopholes they use to avoid paying ANY tax.
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Post by Poonoo » Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:08 pm

rabidtictac wrote:
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Reminder: If you want the rich corporations to pay their fair share, it's not about implementing new taxes or increasing the tax rate. It's about closing the loopholes they use to avoid paying ANY tax.
But that would mean they can't use new tax increases to fuck over their smaller competition. A reminder that Wal Mart have supported increases in the minimum wage, this is one issue Libertarians understand perfectly but useful idiot leftists can't comprehend.
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Post by rabidtictac » Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:29 pm

Imagine if we had a flat tax system that everyone had to pay, with no exceptions or exemptions. If you make money, you pay flat tax on whatever you make. Period. Make $5, pay 50 cents. Apply it to everyone. No loopholes and no exemptions. Suddenly Mr. Giant CEO has to pay 10% tax on absolutely all his income without exception. Get the fuck outta here with write-offs and a team of legal jews. Make a billion dollars? Pay a tenth. Make a dollar? Pay a tenth. And none of this state government BS where they have 50 separate taxes you have to pay that all add up to a third of your fucking income. Nah fam. That 10% has to cover everything. You want some new program for arts? Figure out how to take it out of the money you already get or ask for a grant from Gates' wife. No more extra tax money for you.

I'm not sure it would be practical, but at least the middle class/working poor wouldn't be paying a third of their income off the top every single fucking paycheck and then HOPING they get most of that back at the end of the year. Meanwhile Bezos pays no tax at all because fuck you.
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Re: Clown World General

Post by Guest » Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:46 pm

The big multinationals would just move out of the country.

By the way, the 'global minimum tax' is never going to work, either. You'll never get all the countries of the world to ratify it and so long as you don't there will always be tax havens where the super rich can hide their money and avoid paying tax on it. One of the reasons that Switzerland never joined the EJew is because they would have forced them to tighten up their loose banking restrictions and a lot of business that comes into Switzerland is from mobsters and other criminals looking to hide money.

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Post by RAPEMAN » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:45 pm

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The big multinationals would just move out of the country.
This will always be the issue. There will always be states open to allowing corporations to set up shop when the west gets too expensive. This is where globalism kicks globalists in the ass, the countries that don't believe in globalism.
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Post by veris leta facies » Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:31 pm

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What a laughable suggestion.
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Post by rabidtictac » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:05 am

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The big multinationals would just move out of the country.
That's why we have to set up new antitrust laws and engage in trade warfare. You wanna move all your shit overseas? Congrats, your products aren't getting into our country. Fuck tariffs, enjoy being banned from importing anything. If you wanna SELL shit here, you better also EMPLOY people here.

Countries need to stop thinking globally and start thinking communally. What's good for my local community. Fuck global trade! Fuck the global economy! What does your company benefit my country? If all your company is doing is siphoning money out of my country and into some foreign power in exchange for cheap, shitty goods, then maybe we don't fucking need or want your kind of business.

99% of the bullshit these megacorps sell is nearly worthless or can be replaced by a local alternative.
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Re: Clown World General

Post by Tony Schiavone » Wed Apr 07, 2021 1:59 am

rabidtictac wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 1:29 pm
Imagine if we had a flat tax system
That's nice....but the ideal for me is a tax on consumption. Call it Fair Tax, sales tax, what have you (not that VAT fagginess)

For several reasons.
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It's a tax that ensures business has an incentive to collect. Since they know what they are fully owed after tax--they can insist on proper records being kept so fewer people screw each other. Expenses are also part of the company's books, which are harder to cook with mutual B2B transactions. There isnt much point to dumping everything in expense now anyway. You either just sit there and do nothing with your revenues or put it into normal cost of business.
They aren't getting double-taxed on their profits like they currently are anyway, so they come out ahead regardless.

Then theres the actual rich. High spending I'd an earmark of luxury. Suddenly you can pay for as little or much as you want--though there isnt much point to hoarding wealth to win the avoidance game. More people are likely to blow their dough once they realize how much more they end up keeping per paycheck. Capital gains are now incentivized, stimulating investment.

Fuel taxes work because you cant get around them. The ultra wealthy are still going to tank up their private jets...only now money actually goes to the Treasury.
Illegals become less of an issue, because suddenly they are paying the same taxes like everyone else. You also have more incentive to decriminalize drugs, since that's a revenue pot.

Look at states with income tax, ballooning theur budget deficits. Then look at Florida--even with the lost tourism last year they still always record net gains.

But you might say..."what about that amendment that says we HAFTA have a federal income tax?"
Doesnt say it has to be the ONLY way of gaining revenue. But okay.
So just make it insignificant. Charge everyone earning over $10 million a year, fifty bucks. Thats all. Done.
Of course, we'll never get that in burger country. Because accountants, attorneys, and the IRS love to keep their jobs.
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Re: Clown World General

Post by rabidtictac » Wed Apr 07, 2021 2:13 am

A fat tax on consoomerism is good, but that already exists in some states and they just stack that bullshit WITH the other taxes.
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