Dead Horse Interchange

rabidtictac wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 28, 2019 12:18 am

I thought I was liberal though, is the thing of it all. I like social safety nets. I think universal health care would be a nice thing if there were some practical way to make it work for such a large country as the USA. I support a living wage.

How do we go from that to protecting kiddie fuckers because they're Islamist?

Depends what you mean with liberal. Social safety net, universal health care and living wage (combined with a free market) is economic policy. That would make you socialist to a great degree in my book because all of these policies are collectivist in nature and state focused. Liberal policy is hands off (Laissez-faire capitalism).

A race war doesn't make much sense. Look what the commies did in Russia, this was basically the equivalent of it. It literally says on wikipedia

Another one to two million people, known as the White émigrés, fled Russia, many with the White Gen. Pyotr Nikolayevich Wrangel—some through the Far East, others west into the newly independent Baltic countries. These émigrés included a large percentage of the educated and skilled population of Russia.

'White' refers to the White Army, as in the opposite of the Red Army, dumbfuck

Guest wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:30 am

rabidtictac wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 28, 2019 12:18 am

I thought I was liberal though, is the thing of it all. I like social safety nets. I think universal health care would be a nice thing if there were some practical way to make it work for such a large country as the USA. I support a living wage.

How do we go from that to protecting kiddie fuckers because they're Islamist?

Depends what you mean with liberal. Social safety net, universal health care and living wage (combined with a free market) is economic policy. That would make you socialist to a great degree in my book because all of these policies are collectivist in nature and state focused. Liberal policy is hands off (Laissez-faire capitalism).

It's either social liberalism or cultural liberalism Tictac is referring to.

Liberalism itself is a rather complex concept, and I don't really know how to regard it anymore. On the other hand, many great thinkers (Elon Musk, Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris etc.) are cultural libertarians. Then again, when looking at these SJW groups in western countries, third-wave feminists, Marxist journalists, Islamic apologists etc. dogmatically driving their opinions, applying liberalism arbitrarily and inconsistently, and blending their psychoses into it.. Can it be said today that liberalism has been more harmful than good?

The current cultural Marxist leftist ideology has victimized entire nations, races, cultures and even sex by telling them that if you don't succeed in life, then it's someone else's fault. And if somebody denies that, he is a racist, xenophobic or a chauvinist. An intolerant bigot and the discussion is thus over. This is the opposite of classic liberalism.

Maybe liberalism is harmful to society as a whole, but useful for the upper caste, because the development requires a basically liberal basis.

All I know is we have the left and the right now, and both want to control me albeit for different shit, and I fucking hate it.

veris leta facies wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 29, 2019 12:52 pm

Maybe liberalism is harmful to society as a whole, but useful for the upper caste, because the development requires a basically liberal basis.

The main problem is that liberals can't create a liberal basis. They already conclude from the beginning that people are fundamentally equal. Society is organized based on this premise and that leads to tension if you have to deal with people that are fundamentally unequal aka not suitable for a liberal basis. Apartheid thus was not really segregation but an approximation process. That innuendo studios guy claimed liberalism lets us down at that moment but in reality this was necessary for liberalism to prosper.



You can only make people equal if you conclude they are fundamentally unequal. Europe right now is trying to bypass this process and it's not working.

Friendly reminder that the modern welfare system was created by Otto von Bismarck in Prussia, 1862, so it has nothing to do with socialism or liberalism.

Le Redditeur wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:52 pm

Friendly reminder that the modern welfare system was created by Otto von Bismarck in Prussia, 1862, so it has nothing to do with socialism or liberalism.

Bismarck btfo he can never recover

Le Redditeur wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 07, 2019 5:52 pm

Friendly reminder that the modern welfare system was created by Otto von Bismarck in Prussia, 1862, so it has nothing to do with socialism or liberalism.

Really living up to your name.

Oscar Wilde is also a redditor though and not much different from the state socialists when it comes to the poverty question. It should not be "we make poverty impossible based on that state socialism doesn't work" but "we make poverty impossible based on that poverty is inevitable". Machines don't end poverty, the inevitability of poverty ends poverty.

Guest wrote: ↑

Mon Apr 08, 2019 4:46 pm

Oh look, literal cult leader welfare queen Stefan MolyJew, the man who has no real job, leeches off of his wife and e-begs for money while manipulating retards.