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Re: #Bernie2020

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 3:15 am
by Credo in Deum
Some of Sanders points argued are moot like free college and material egalitarianism.
Sanders was in favor of public funding for college students. He believed that "we live in a highly competitive global economy and, if our economy is to be strong, we need the best-educated work force in the world." He further maintained that many developed nations in Western Europe have long taken this approach to higher education. Sanders expected his plan to meet strong opposition from the Republican Party, but said it was ultimately "the American people" who would determine its failure or success.
College can't be free because then it would become as collectivist and worthless as basic education already is. Everyone needs basic education but not everyone needs to be in college. That some people, who should be in college, have trouble getting in is not to conclude to water it down for everyone.

Even Jordan Peterson has said because some universities are funded on the basis of bringing in as much people as possible it backfires because they waste peoples time. If you have zero barrier for entry you fill the universities with tons of people who should not be in college. If anything you should actually be barred from entering and only the capable people should be identified and funded. It would do many people more good if they worked a basic job first than stumbling around in the fantasy realm that is college.

The other things are just as collectivist as you would expect from a true state socialist.
Sanders was a staunch supporter of a universal health care system, and said, "if you are serious about real healthcare reform, the only way to go is single‑payer". He advocated lowering the cost of drugs that are high because they remain under patent for years; some drugs that cost thousands of dollars per year in the U.S. are available for hundreds, or less, in countries where they can be obtained as generics.
A cornerstone of Sanders's campaign was to fight the decreasing income of the middle class and the increase of wealth inequality:

What we have seen is that while the average person is working longer hours for lower wages, we have seen a huge increase in income and wealth inequality, which is now reaching obscene levels. ... This is a rigged economy, which works for the rich and the powerful, and is not working for ordinary Americans ... You know, this country just does not belong to a handful of billionaires.

In July 2015 Sanders introduced legislation that would incrementally increase the federal minimum wage to $15 an hour by the year 2020. On November 10, 2015, Sanders joined striking Senate cafeteria workers at a "Fight for $15" rally in Washington DC and voiced support for the movement.

Re: #Bernie2020

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:28 am
by Guest
So you want a USSR system where government officials decide who does and who doesn't get education.

Re: #Bernie2020

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2019 4:33 pm
by VoiceOfReasonPast
All dem nazis need to get ousted from college so they can have more room for minorities getting their 4th Gender Studies degree.

Re: #Bernie2020

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 7:28 pm
by Credo in Deum
Guest wrote:
Fri Mar 29, 2019 9:28 am
So you want a USSR system where government officials decide who does and who doesn't get education.
That's what the radical left wants and are doing right now without the government on the basis of you are not gender fluid enough to work at our university :lol:

Re: #Bernie2020

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:23 am
by CuckTurdginson
So Biden is getting #MeTooed and may not even run.
So who does that leave?

Sanders - Could possibly flip Wisconsin, Michigan, Penn., and Maine's 2nd, but that would still only have him barely beating Trump with about 280 delegates, assuming he holds onto all of the Clinton states and doesn't lose Virginia or Nevada. His advanced age could fuck his tenuous lead pretty quickly.

Harris - Would probably do better than Clinton, but there's little to suggest she'd do much better right now. She's probably 'the frontrunner', but definitely still a literally who?

Robert O'Rourke - would get BTFO

Warren - Probably would also get BTFO

Pete Buttigieg - I actually kind of like this guy, he is probably who I'm backing right now as the resident libshit here. He did a really good job managing the town he was mayor of, even though South Bend's politics skew moderate-conservative and he's generally pretty progressive, most of the people there are happy with him. He openly supports the working class, and is anti-interventionalist. Plus Blob fucking *hates* him, like really truly *hates* him. I would say he'd be the guy who'd be most likely to beat Trump, but I doubt he'd ever get the nod since he's still a nobody mayor. Still, year and a half out.

Re: #Bernie2020

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:55 am
by Kugelfisch
Told you guys Biden wouldn't fly with his creepy touchy behaviour.

Re: #Bernie2020

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:07 pm
by Keith Chegwin
You told us? I said way before #MeToo was even a thing that there was no way he was getting nominated.

Re: #Bernie2020

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:28 pm
by Kugelfisch
Keith Chegwin wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:07 pm
You told us? I said way before #MeToo was even a thing that there was no way he was getting nominated.
Yes, I did. And I'll take the "told you so" credit for that unless you prove me otherwise. :D

Re: #Bernie2020

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:50 pm
by Keith Chegwin
Kugelfisch wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2019 1:28 pm
Yes, I did. And I'll take the "told you so" credit for that unless you prove me otherwise. :D
Wasn't gonna, but fuck it. I got nothing better to do
Keith Chegwin wrote:
Sun Apr 30, 2017 1:05 pm
Personally I don't think Biden's got much of a shot. Yeah, he was Obama's Vice President but few people know or care who he is. It would be Al Gore all over again. Not to mention that Joe Biden just has sex scandal written all over him.
Keith Chegwin wrote:
Sun Aug 20, 2017 7:02 pm
Also, Biden's the kind of guy who looks like he's got plenty of skeletons in his closet.
vs
Kugelfisch wrote:
Mon Feb 04, 2019 12:54 am
Talk about creepy, touchy guy. Really gets those macadamias firing how the SJW squad that calls everything "gross" and "creepy" hasn't made a stink about him, doesn't it? :thinking: :thinking: :thinking:

Re: #Bernie2020

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 2:20 pm
by Kugelfisch
Chapeau!