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Re: RIP Sweden v3.2

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2019 11:08 pm
by da PAC Nigguh
I like the Sweden Democrats much more than the American Democrats.

Re: RIP Sweden v3.2

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:49 am
by Kugelfisch
What's considered "far right" in Sweden is still left of US Democrats.

Re: RIP Sweden v3.2

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:57 am
by Keith Chegwin
To be fair, the pro-war, pro-corporatist US Democrats aren't especially left wing

Re: RIP Sweden v3.2

Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2019 2:09 am
by Kugelfisch
Keith Chegwin wrote:
Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:57 am
To be fair, the pro-war, pro-corporatist US Democrats aren't especially left wing
They're just more honest lefitsts.

Re: RIP Sweden v3.2

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:52 am
by Old Black Man
We just need to drop the left-right bullshit here and come up with factions.

Re: RIP Sweden v3.2

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:36 am
by Tony Schiavone
Old Black Man wrote:
Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:52 am
We just need to drop the left-right bullshit here and come up with factions.

Every politician's ego wants them to be known as being a great compromiser negotiator and wonderful bipartisan worker.


They should really just show up and demand only what they want to vote. No compromise or exceptions. Call a vote? Do it and move on. If they just get gridlock, go home like Trump did.
Live as cheaply as possible, and save your lobbyist money and Congress pay. Come election time it wont matter if you get reelected or not. Just say the other is insane.


The right continually cucks itself when it gets handed everything. Twice. Didnt take the Dems long to get ACA and start more wars.
This is how Trump got elected. He says screw off and quit wasting time trying to be friends with these people. Maybe next time these furloughed idiots caught in the shutdown should get a real job instead of government lazy work.

Re: RIP Sweden v3.2

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:52 am
by Old Black Man
Tony Schiavone wrote:
Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:36 am
Old Black Man wrote:
Mon Jan 21, 2019 1:52 am
We just need to drop the left-right bullshit here and come up with factions.

Every politician's ego wants them to be known as being a great compromiser negotiator and wonderful bipartisan worker.


They should really just show up and demand only what they want to vote. No compromise or exceptions. Call a vote? Do it and move on. If they just get gridlock, go home like Trump did.
Live as cheaply as possible, and save your lobbyist money and Congress pay. Come election time it wont matter if you get reelected or not. Just say the other is insane.


The right continually cucks itself when it gets handed everything. Twice. Didnt take the Dems long to get ACA and start more wars.
This is how Trump got elected. He says screw off and quit wasting time trying to be friends with these people. Maybe next time these furloughed idiots caught in the shutdown should get a real job instead of government lazy work.
Solid analysis my friend. I’d definitely say we’re in the midst of a great political shift in America, and at this rate we need it.

Re: RIP Sweden v3.2

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:51 pm
by Credo in Deum
Old Black Man wrote:
Mon Jan 21, 2019 4:52 am
Solid analysis my friend. I’d definitely say we’re in the midst of a great political shift in America, and at this rate we need it.
I'm not sure what's so great about people radicalizing themselves and running around outside parliament forcing political issues with polemic and violence. The last time conservatives had enough and words like cultural Bolshevism where thrown around is when the Weimar Republic was on it's last legs.

Re: RIP Sweden v3.2

Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2019 5:19 pm
by Tony Schiavone
It's more like one side always willing to cave in to the other. That's not how things are supposed to work.

There's a study done online somewhere (forget the link) which basically says the best society is one that has people that respond to how the other treats them.
In other words: screw me, and I'll screw you back until you learn to stop doing that.

Re: RIP Sweden v3.2

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:23 pm
by veris leta facies
In progressive Sweden, feminists are now wanting to ban sexrobots. :lol:

https://www.expressen.se/debatt/lagstif ... robotarna/

Here's the google translate, it's accurate enough:
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We need a team against malicious sex robots

"Sex robots" and "sex dolls" reinforce and normalize the view of women as objects and normalize men's violence against women.

It is time for stricter legislation so that new technology does not reproduce values ​​about exploiting women's bodies, writes Sweden's women's lobby, Roks and Unizon.

DEBATE | SEXROBOTS. We were able to read the news in Dagens Nyheter that so-called "sex robots" are ready to be shipped out from a factory in San Diego to men who are willing to buy human-like, AI-driven robots with the purpose of obeying and performing sexual acts whenever the owner pleases . In November, Finland's first brothel was opened with so-called "sex dolls". In December, the news came that the customs seized "sex dolls" ordered online, which are similar to children. A first thought is that this is a harmless phenomenon because the robots are just products and not people, but the presence of these robots says a lot about our time. Why are men willing to pay tens of thousands of dollars for a robot that obeys their smallest command?

Robots for rapists and pedophiles

Many of the "sex robots" and "sex dolls" that are produced have the appearance and attributes typical of the objectifying, sexualized and humiliated woman found in today's mainstream pornography. She also says no to something that the man wants, if she is not programmed to do so. Many robots are even programmed to exhibit resistance so that the man who has sex with the robot can live out his rape fantasies. It is also not unusual for both robots and dolls to represent children, so that adult men can simulate child abuse.

From previous research in similar areas, we know that the type of fantasies that are stimulated by new technology often lead to real violence against girls and women. Clear parallels can be drawn to pornography research where the link between consumption of pornography leads to sexist attitudes towards women and actual violence. If pornography that many are perceived as "watching something" can inspire abuse, what do we expect that human-like robots that men interact with should lead to?

Dangerous dehumanization

AI and ethics researcher Kathleen Richardson believes that the dehumanization of certain groups, in this case women, justifies slavery and the exploitation of the female body through new technology is part of this. Don't let the technological development be controlled by the sex industry. The development of new technology will make it easier for people, make the world a more equal and equal place, not the other way around!