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Post by Rushy » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:55 pm

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Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:15 pm

Oh yeah, there were a lot of weird monologues in that movie.
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A thing I don't like about the entire series is how many loose ends there are. There are things brought up to never matter again, characters just don't show up anymore, plot points are entirely dropped. For Dune Messiah it makes sense to drop several things as at some point the situation drastically changes. That's plausible as things can happen that just overthrow plans and it's fine to shake up things to confront the characters and the reader with something unexpected.
But especially later on, too much is just left in a ditch. Futars and Handlers, the priesthood of Dune, the Tleilaxu and their everything, especially Axolotl tanks, the entirety of Ix, the Imperium and the importance of the great and smaller houses and so on and so forth.
Oh and fucking space Jews. What a waste of time and what a silly concept. Too many factions are just never really explored. Too much is left in an unsatisfying open end or just doens't matter anymore because we skip ahead thousands of years. Most importantly, it's just not Dune anymore after God Emperor. The whole flavour changes too much and when Chapterhouse comes around the writing style changes so much it reads like one of those craptastic Cthulhu mythos books written by some wanker other than Lovecraft. It's writing about similar things and uses the names but reads nothing like it.
Sounds like we need a Dune Cinematic Universe.
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Re: Books

Post by Rushy » Sat Feb 24, 2018 12:12 am

I would kill for a Gurney Halleck spinoff
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Re: Books

Post by Kugelfisch » Sat Feb 24, 2018 12:51 am

Rushy wrote:
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I would kill for a Gurney Halleck spinoff
It's baffling how he got dropped stone cold while the much, much more boring non-character shithead was turned into the main character across six books. I'm still mad about that.
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Post by Rushy » Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:13 am

Kugelfisch wrote:
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Rushy wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 12:12 am
I would kill for a Gurney Halleck spinoff
It's baffling how he got dropped stone cold while the much, much more boring non-character shithead was turned into the main character across six books. I'm still mad about that.
I waa interested to learn that apparently he became Jessica's secret lover
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Post by Kugelfisch » Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:30 am

Who? Duncan or Gurney? One did, one wanted to.
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Post by Guest » Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:14 am

There should have been only one book, anything after that contributed to the autistic mess that ended up happening

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Post by Rushy » Sun Feb 25, 2018 2:44 pm

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Who? Duncan or Gurney? One did, one wanted to.
Gurney. The prequels kinda expand on that by setting the Jessica-loyal Gurney against the Alia-loyal Duncan ghola.
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Re: Books

Post by Kugelfisch » Mon Feb 26, 2018 11:19 am

Well, he was her lover in Dune Messiah. How can the prequels set him against the Duncan ghola when he's not a ghola at that point?
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Post by Rushy » Mon Feb 26, 2018 1:03 pm

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Well, he was her lover in Dune Messiah. How can the prequels set him against the Duncan ghola when he's not a ghola at that point?
They did several prequels: a trilogy set before the OG Dune, an unfinished series where each novel is set between an original one(so "Paul of Dune" comes between "Dune" and "Dune Messiah" and "Winds of Dune" comes between "Dune Messiah" and "Children of Dune") and a series set during the machine years and then a series that just recently finished where we see the development of the Guild, Bene Gesserit etc.

They have been releasing new Dune books every two years or so since 2000.
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