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Re: Books

Post by Kugelfisch » Thu Apr 24, 2025 9:12 pm

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But lesbians is where he drew the line lol. Duncan Idaho had a meltdown when he discovered that Leto II lets women kiss each other.
Because Herbert hit his head particularly hard one day and decided to bring the unimportant bit player and deceased Duncan Idaho back as a self insert that's now an immortal Neo seeing through the Matrix's code.

As such, he's such a manly man that he makes even butch dykes orgasm just by them observing his manly acts of manliness.
Of course he'd be outraged by lesbos! No woman could possibly resist perfect saviour and chosen one Frank Herbert Duncan fucking Idaho!
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Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Thu Apr 24, 2025 10:05 pm

The series would be improved a thousandfold if they replaced him with Duncan Fucking Fisher.
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Re: Books

Post by Rushy » Thu Apr 24, 2025 11:29 pm

Kugelfisch wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 9:12 pm
Rushy wrote:
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But lesbians is where he drew the line lol. Duncan Idaho had a meltdown when he discovered that Leto II lets women kiss each other.
Because Herbert hit his head particularly hard one day and decided to bring the unimportant bit player and deceased Duncan Idaho back as a self insert that's now an immortal Neo seeing through the Matrix's code.
What's funny is that Gurney Halleck is pretty much the exact same character, but with personality traits.
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Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Fri Apr 25, 2025 6:41 am

They're completely different characters.
One of them can play some kind of guitar or lute.
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Post by Kugelfisch » Fri Apr 25, 2025 5:37 pm

Rushy wrote:
Thu Apr 24, 2025 11:29 pm
What's funny is that Gurney Halleck is pretty much the exact same character, but with personality traits.
Because Duncan was clearly set up to die off and never return. But Gurney isn't handsome, so that won't do as a self insert ultra messiah.
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Post by rabidtictac » Sat Apr 26, 2025 12:45 am

I honestly forgot those were two separate characters. I remember the mentats, Harkonnens, Bene Gesundheits and Fremen, but not random-ass hanger-ons from the Atreides household.

I'm currently reading Stephen R. Donaldson's Reeve the Just short story collection. It is excellent. Quite a lot of rapeculturing in these stories but the writing is of exceptional quality. :lol:

Some of these titles are just excellent too, like The Woman who Loved Pigs. Now there's a title we can all relate to. Who hasn't seen a woman in love with a pig?

I tried to read some Samuel R. Delany but it devolved into gay porn about five pages in.
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Post by ebin namefag » Sat Apr 26, 2025 4:18 am

Samuel Delaney is a gay nigger pedophile and literal member of NAMBLA. Patrick Tomlinson's trolls also stalk his social media.
One of the worst things I've ever read wasn't written by him but one of his Faceberg orbiters. Delaney regularly shares pictures of pedarasty (this one was a drawing) and someone replied "Writing with that squid ink" with a squid emoji.
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Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Sat Apr 26, 2025 5:46 am

Have his works been adapted on the screen yet? It sounds like they should
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Some of these titles are just excellent too, like The Woman who Loved Pigs. Now there's a title we can all relate to. Who hasn't seen a woman in love with a pig?
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Re: Books

Post by Kugelfisch » Sat May 24, 2025 9:25 pm

Raft by Stephen Baxter

On a whim, I've decided to read the Xeelee Sequence books by Baxter. I've downloaded a compilation of them, which includes: Raft, Timelike Infinity, Flux, Ring, Coalescent, Exultant, Transcendent, Resplendent, Vacuum Diagrams and Xeelee: Endurance.

Raft is an odd story and I don't really know yet what it has to do with the Xeelee stuff because they aren't in that story. Nor are any alien lifeforms above basic fauna. Nor does it even take place in our universe.

You'll be terribly confused if you just go in blind because immediately, from page one, shit won't make sense and you'll wonder if you've picked up a fantasy novel instead. I'm not sure why it's in the sequence and it feels like it was retconned well after the fact.

Apparently, it was a short story later expanded and one of the first novels Baxster wrote. It shows.
It's not hard sci-fi. It's rather pulpy soft sci-fi and you'll have to treat it as an adventure novel of older times. It works as that but it's unbelievably fantastic in a lot of places.

Basic plot:
What the book won't tell you until a cool third into the story is that it's not taking place in our universe. May have worked for the short story that likely went for an odd atmosphere but doesn't work for the full novel because it's confusing as fuck!

A spaceship travelled from our universe to another one, in which gravity is a billion times stronger. That immediately fucked their shit up but people survived.

We get introduced to our protagonist, a miner, who lives in a small colony of shoddily built container homes arranged into a ring structure about 800 meters across via iron ropes around a cool star core, about 80 meters across and entirely made of iron, within a nebula that is breathable.
So basically, stars are tiny, so are nebulas, planets don't even exist. Nebulas are so dense that one made out of the right gasses is pretty much a breathable atmosphere.
In the ring you're weightless, on the tiny star core you experience a crazy 5G!

The miners pretty much all don't know what is going on. The tiny ring of habitats is their entire world and all anyone has ever known. They are born there, they work there, they die there.
They don't know they aren't native to this universe.
They mine iron and in exchange they get food via trade with the Raft, a supposed utopia (at least by comparison) sort of city somewhere higher in the nebula that no miner has ever been to.

Our protagonist wants answers and thus looks to get to the Raft to figure out what's going on. Especially since he seems to be the o ly one that even questions the whole existence of the whole situation.


It's a weird story that moves fast and is less about science than about group dynamics and ones role in society.
It's not great but not terrible and it's a short read. I've started Timelike Infinity and it feels immediately different, as that one takes place in our universe and mentions the Xeelee very early on.
I don't think Raft is required and it's inclusion is perhaps a bit misguided. I'm not sure if I'd recommend the novel. It's interesting in an odd way but also rather pedestrian, at times incredibly contrived and certainly not something you should put on your reading list with any priority.

If you're up for some odd, fantastical Sci-fi, read The Stars My Destination instead. Then perhaps, if you're bored and need a quick two day read, maybe go with this one. Imaginative, yet mediocre.
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Re: Books

Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Sun May 25, 2025 7:12 am

Yeah, all my research tells me this one ain't a good starting point for the series.
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