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Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:32 pm

Romans were oddly superstitious for the self-proclaimed properly-evolved civilization, and liked wasting time and money on curse tablets and fortune tellers. That's doesn't really sound like the Romulans.

Not sure how much this matters, though, seeing how normie knowledge about Roman belief probably starts and ends with "They have the Greek gods, except they have different names". Not even anything about how their rebranded pantheon was a lot more subtle than the Greek one, or that they had a fuckload more deities (or god-like concepts).
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Post by Kugelfisch » Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:07 pm

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Romans were oddly superstitious
There's nothing odd about being "superstitious" back in those times. The whole fucking world was. For the most part most civilisations wouldn't even dare call other's gods fake, just the wrong ones to worship or falsely interpreted.
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Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:26 pm

The Romans went so far as to essentially collect defeated people's deities like they're filling a Pokedex or something. It's just a bit amusing from a modern perspective.
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Post by Kugelfisch » Wed Mar 25, 2020 8:02 pm

VoiceOfReasonPast wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 4:26 pm
The Romans went so far as to essentially collect defeated people's deities like they're filling a Pokedex or something. It's just a bit amusing from a modern perspective.
It's really no different to what any other culture was doing. The Egyptians and the Greek were also doing the whole "oh we worship that dude as well but we call him something else" song and dance.
Back then you really, really didn't just say "lol that god doesn't exist". That was a concept that came up way later around the Renaissance era. Even then the tendency was rather calling them demons than outright denying their existence.
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Re: Star Dreck

Post by Liar Revealed » Wed Mar 25, 2020 9:27 pm

VoiceOfReasonPast wrote:
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The Romans went so far as to essentially collect defeated people's deities like they're filling a Pokedex or something. It's just a bit amusing from a modern perspective.
They took the Jewish god Adonai and rebooted him as Adonis, with a very different backstory.

It must be noted that the TOS Romulans did not have forehead ridges, not even in the movies (5&6). It was something TNG started for some reason.

The Romulans are Vulcans that left Vulcan before Surak reformed the Vulcan culture into a logical one. They retain the warlike aspects of the old Vulcan culture.

TNG also debuted the Mintakans, a "proto-Vulcan race", whatever that means.
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Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:14 pm

I guess they feared that audiences wouldn't be able to tell Vulcans and Romulans part, despite the distinctive Romulan uniform? And I guess Mintakans are another part of the Vulcan exodus that didn't actually end up accomplishing much.
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It's really no different to what any other culture was doing. The Egyptians and the Greek were also doing the whole "oh we worship that dude as well but we call him something else" song and dance.
Romans took it a step further. Whenever they clowned over another city, they'd do some ritual that basically amounted to "Hey, patron god of this city. Why won't you come hang out in Rome? We'll build you a fancy temple and everything!".
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Post by Le Redditeur » Thu Mar 26, 2020 1:40 am

The Roman consuls had the authority to cancel events due to "bad omens". The guy who served as Caesar's proconsul tried to filibuster his land reform bill claiming "bad omens" but, since it was a very popular bill, the solemnly ignored him.

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Re: Star Dreck

Post by Liar Revealed » Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:48 am

VoiceOfReasonPast wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 10:14 pm
I guess Mintakans are another part of the Vulcan exodus that didn't actually end up accomplishing much.
If the Mintakans left Vulcan via spacecraft, then it seems difficult to believe that they completely forgot all about spacecraft and regressed to a bronze age society.
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Post by Guest » Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:47 am

Liar Revealed wrote:
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If the Mintakans left Vulcan via spacecraft, then it seems difficult to believe that they completely forgot all about spacecraft and regressed to a bronze age society.
It didn't make any sense, nor did starfleet having an observation post on the ground instead of just watching them from orbit.

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Re: Star Dreck

Post by Kugelfisch » Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:16 pm

In all fairness, it never made sense that the Klingons would become a space faring race. 40k Orks at least have the excuse that whatever garbage they build just works because they believe it will. How did the knuckleheaded Klingons manage? TOS Klingons could've but no way the TNG ones would've built anything more advanced than hotrods to street race with.
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