Chelsea Van Valkenberg slam dunked a suicide

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Re: Chelsea Van Valkenberg slam dunked a suicide

Post by Kugelfisch » Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:02 pm

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Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:51 am
Irrelevant. All you'd need to prove is that this bloke wouldn't have killed himself if it weren't for the acts of Chelsea Van Valkenberg.
Not at all irrelevant. There couldn't be anything more relevant than wether a case is winnable in practise. Good luck trying to convince them that a dude that's been suicidal forever wouldn't just as well have killed himself over something else.
I wouldn't expect that case to win. We're still in the belieb wahmen era. Enough of the jury and likely the judge as well will buy into her sob story and then you're basically standing there with the argument that she should have never talked about her sexual abuse. Big waste of money and time.
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Re: Chelsea Van Valkenberg slam dunked a suicide

Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Fri Sep 13, 2019 1:07 pm

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Does someone at DC want to get forced to an hero?

Christ, kill a cuck, get a job. What a world to live in.
She may have gone "If you don't get me another job, I'll tell everyone about the penis ring Geoff Johns has shown me!" :lol:
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Re: Chelsea Van Valkenberg slam dunked a suicide

Post by Keith Chegwin » Fri Sep 13, 2019 3:28 pm

Kugelfisch wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:02 pm
Good luck trying to convince them that a dude that's been suicidal forever wouldn't just as well have killed himself over something else.
I agree that's what she'd probably end up having to argue, but that wasn't your initial point.
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Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:02 pm
I wouldn't expect that case to win. We're still in the belieb wahmen era. Enough of the jury and likely the judge as well will buy into her sob story
The jury would never hear her sob story because it's bullshit. No self-respecting lawyer is going to let his client go up on the stand and perjure herself. They're certainly not going to allow their client to open themselves up to being destroyed on cross

You act as if the plaintiff's lawyer is just going to sit there and let her tell her sob story and not try to impeach her credibility in any way
Kugelfisch wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 12:02 pm
then you're basically standing there with the argument that she should have never talked about her sexual abuse.
Which is a decent argument to make seeing as
A) It's all lies
B) It's all accusations not formal legal charges. Any lawyer with a brain is going to argue that if she felt strongly enough about her sexual abuse she could have gone to the authorities. Going to the press (or in this case, Twatter) is what you do when you've exhausted your legal options.

There is a winnable case there. Just no one to make it
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Re: Chelsea Van Valkenberg slam dunked a suicide

Post by Kugelfisch » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:27 pm

You have too much faith in a court case to actually be reasonable and reach the conclusion it should reach. Especially burger courts are just bonkers. It's got a snowball's chance in hell to win and any lawyer that'd take it up is just taking his client for a ride.
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Re: Chelsea Van Valkenberg slam dunked a suicide

Post by Dehbashi » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:35 pm

There is precidence for someone going to prison for encouraging someone to off themselves it's tricky here because her lawyers can just argue Valkenberg never told him to kill himself

https://www.apnews.com/320866bd419a49c8a82b55e39390f2c8

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Re: Chelsea Van Valkenberg slam dunked a suicide

Post by Keith Chegwin » Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:59 pm

Kugelfisch wrote:
Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:27 pm
You have too much faith in a court case to actually be reasonable and reach the conclusion it should reach. Especially burger courts are just bonkers. It's got a snowball's chance in hell to win and any lawyer that'd take it up is just taking his client for a ride.
And you're too pessimistic and not actually making any arguments.

If the defence tries to argue that he killed himself because the accusations were true, the plaintiff has a right to rebut that and poke holes in that. A couple of internet autists managed to do it by simply scrolling through her twitter feed. Imagine what a whole legal team is going to do with all the powers of discovery and ability to dig up witnesses at their disposal. This is a pathological liar we're talking about. I can think of at least two witnesses who would probably testify that Chelsea's deliberately lied to ruin their lives.

The best defence she would have at her disposal is 'he would have killed himself anyway' and from there she's arguing uphill because you're arguing a hypothetical.
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Fri Sep 13, 2019 5:35 pm
There is precidence for someone going to prison for encouraging someone to off themselves it's tricky here because her lawyers can just argue Valkenberg never told him to kill himself
That's a criminal case. We're talking about a potential civil case. The burden is much lower. Case in point, OJ Simpson was found liable for Ron and Nicole's murders in civil court even though he was acquitted in criminal court
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Re: Chelsea Van Valkenberg slam dunked a suicide

Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:19 pm

Of course, going full poor victim narrative instead of actually trying to explain her sunshine lolipo tweets from the dark times she spend as a human muppet.
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Re: Chelsea Van Valkenberg slam dunked a suicide

Post by Guest » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:57 pm

So, we're still pretending she isn't a juicy piece of ass?

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