Fallout 76- Bethesda Buggalooooo

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Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Wed Jan 09, 2019 6:13 pm

Or maybe they'll try to be sneaky by reusing the map for TES 6 - now with more grass and Draugr.
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Post by AdorableOtter » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:38 am

The only thing I liked about Skyrim was sneaking mechanic until I realized it was completely broken. "It was just my imagination" NO IT'S NOT YOU DAMN AI FUCK! Pretty much everything related combat was wrong. New potential Skyrim players should play Prophecy of Pendor (M&B warband mod) instead.

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Post by rabidtictac » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:03 am

The only even remotely "fun" way to play Skyrim is with a full stealth archer build.

Combat is shit and magic is ass, so take those away and you're left with crossbow/archery simulator 2019

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Post by Kugelfisch » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:27 am

Since I always play sneaky assassins in those games I did play it as an archer/thief like I did Oblivion. It's still shit. As soon as I was done with the Dark Brotherhood storyline (which was pretty alright) I lost interest and never played it again.
I can't even imagine that people actually play melee fighters in Skyrim. It's just so fucking bad. If you ever played M&B or Chivalry it's downright unaceptable how garbage Skyrim's sword fighting is.
A multi billion dollar company BTFO by shitty budget studios. I'd be terribly embarrassed .
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Post by mad bum » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:28 am

The only way to play skyrim is fists only to German suplex everyone in sight.
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Post by AngrySpoonySnob » Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:54 pm

You people sure love going over the top with your Skyrim hate. Its not a very good game but its nowhere near as bad as you guys seem to think. (or you just act that way because its cool to roast skyrim in internetnerd circles...)
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Post by Kugelfisch » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:37 pm

AngrySpoonySnob wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 5:54 pm
You people sure love going over the top with your Skyrim hate. Its not a very good game but its nowhere near as bad as you guys seem to think. (or you just act that way because its cool to roast skyrim in internetnerd circles...)
It sure was fun when I had to close the game about every half hour in the first two weeks because it'd just keep dumping into memory without ever clearing. Or not being able to select a class. Or every form of combat being shitty. Or the interface being top cancer. Or the entire story being shit. Or having absolutely no fucking impact on the game world.
Want me to go on? I'm not mad about Skyrim but it's massively overrated and a legit bad game and will forever be the gravestone for the entire TES franchise.
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Post by rabidtictac » Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:44 pm

No, Skyrim is really that bad, ass. It's fucking awful. The entire game is following fucking markers. The combat is terrible. Magic combat is just spamming triggers and abusing summons. Melee combat is mashing and spamming power attacks. There's no build diversity beyond the 3 ways to play: melee, magic or archery. That's all you get and EVERY CHARACTER CAN DO ALL THREE.

Then you add to that the worst intro in probably any modern game and a terrible storyline with mostly shit quests even for the guilds.

Even other bethesda games look good compared to skyrim. Fallout 3 has quests you can complete multiple ways and Oblivion had build diversity.

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Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:23 pm

Combat was kinda bleh even in Morrowind, but then Skyrim dumped it all down and made it even worse. I've seen deeper combat systems in RTS games.
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Post by Kugelfisch » Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:13 pm

rabidtictac wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:44 pm
Even other bethesda games look good compared to skyrim.
That's the strong shit about Skyrim. It's worse than Oblivion and FO3 in just about every way. Both not exactly shining examples of their genre but also far from not enjoyable. Skyrim can't even get fixed by mods.
If you'd say that The Witcher is better (never played it) then yeah, I don't know, maybe. It's entirely different, though. But Skyrim has direct title comparisons and it's worse than any TES before it, including fucking Arena.
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