Doom Eternal Is RACIST!

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Re: Doom Eternal Is RACIST!

Post by Kugelfisch » Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:05 am

Or just play Doom and have the gameplay be like that but better right away.
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Re: Doom Eternal Is RACIST!

Post by mad bum » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:12 am

I'd rather play duke nukem 3d
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Post by Kugelfisch » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:13 am

mad bum wrote:
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I'd rather play duke nukem 3d
A fine choice as well. Thought the best Build engine game is Blood.
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Re: Doom Eternal Is RACIST!

Post by RAPEMAN » Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:24 am

Kugelfisch wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:13 am
mad bum wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:12 am
I'd rather play duke nukem 3d
A fine choice as well. Thought the best Build engine game is Blood.
Too bad we'll never get a true source port because of Atari being greedy Boomers and the official port on steam is broken and already abandoned.

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Re: Doom Eternal Is RACIST!

Post by Kugelfisch » Mon Mar 30, 2020 12:26 pm

The original source code is just plain lost because that specific Atari is gone and the current never had it.
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Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:41 pm

Stupid question: Anyone ever done a Blood WAD for Doom?
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Re: Doom Eternal Is RACIST!

Post by Moe Bitches » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:02 pm

VoiceOfReasonPast wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:41 pm
Stupid question: Anyone ever done a Blood WAD for Doom?
I know there was this WAD called Bloom and it's fucking cool
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Re: Doom Eternal Is RACIST!

Post by Pen Pal » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:19 pm

ZBlood is the first that comes to mind.

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Too bad we'll never get a true source port because of Atari being greedy Boomers and the official port on steam is broken and already abandoned.
I think the big problem with FS was that Kaiser tried reverse engineering everything to his KEX engine and didn't bother using any of the Build engine's code. At least NBlood is in active development and seems to be the most accurate out of all ports of Blood. Kaiser even suggests using it because FS won't be supported anymore.
http://nukeykt.retrohost.net/

I decided to pirate the new Doom 64 port and compared to the N64 original it seems to be more accurate than the older EX port was. If you only care about playing it as vanilla as possible it's a good port to go for. Kaiser even wrote up a list of differences on the Doom 64 EX page.
https://doom64ex.wordpress.com/2020/03/ ... -remaster/
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Re: Doom Eternal Is RACIST!

Post by RAPEMAN » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:37 pm

I'll give the Doom 64 port a shot. I'm going to miss mouse look, though.

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Re: Doom Eternal Is RACIST!

Post by RAPEMAN » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:43 pm

Pen Pal wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:19 pm
RAPEMAN wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 10:24 am
Too bad we'll never get a true source port because of Atari being greedy Boomers and the official port on steam is broken and already abandoned.
I think the big problem with FS was that Kaiser tried reverse engineering everything to his KEX engine and didn't bother using any of the Build engine's code. At least NBlood is in active development and seems to be the most accurate out of all ports of Blood. Kaiser even suggests using it because FS won't be supported anymore.
http://nukeykt.retrohost.net/
IMO using the KEX engine was a big misstep on their department. The Build engine is a complete monster of its own (Ken was either a genius or the luckiest hack fraud in the industry). I'm curious if the Blood source code was available to them. I know it still exists because one of the developer wanted to make his own port some time ago, IIRC.

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