Is the log like in Vanilla Morrowind, where it just made entries as they come in, with no way to filter or organize anything?AdorableOtter wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:17 am(well, actual reason is MM4-5 has a bizarre buffing mechanics where it's ideal to visit/teleport to specific wells/fountains all over the world every day. Quest logs are actually complete clusterfuck though.)
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It's certainly way better than N64 emulation, amirite?!
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Damn dude, last remnant runs like ASS on my console. It's frozen 2-3 times in a row on the same spot, and the last time it even red ringed my xbox. I thought it was about to be done for good. I don't have this degree of problems with any other game so either it's the disc or last remnant is absolutely terrible on console. Edit: or my xbox is about to die but like I said, I don't have this problem with other games.
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It keeps accusing you of being a tranny?
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You can't filter/organize like modern RPG, it's a DOS game from 1992 after all. At least the game logs important places (like the well/fountain I mentioned) and quest logs have coordinates (x, 1, 2).VoiceOfReasonPast wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:02 pmIt's certainly way better than N64 emulation, amirite?!Is the log like in Vanilla Morrowind, where it just made entries as they come in, with no way to filter or organize anything?AdorableOtter wrote: ↑Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:17 am(well, actual reason is MM4-5 has a bizarre buffing mechanics where it's ideal to visit/teleport to specific wells/fountains all over the world every day. Quest logs are actually complete clusterfuck though.)
I guess it's actually quite user friendly for its time. Also now I remembered enemies do not re-spawn and you can just teleport to places (unlike typical walking sims).
Maybe it's not as tedious as I remembered. Old PC games tend to feel/look intimidating even if they're not.
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Memory was precious on floppies so they kept text as short as possible wherever they could. It's really still designed largely as a game you take notes yourself for. Ideally, you'll also map it out because the automap isn't exactly the greatest thing either.
In the first few games you absolutely had to do that stuff. No way around it. It's actually pretty chill if you like that kinda thing.
One of my favourite DOS games in that regard is Mean Streets, the first Tex Murphy game. It's part flight simulator, really. You MUST take notes of names of people, locations and their coordinates, things to ask for and who stand in what relation to other people. So while you're letting the autopilot fly you to your next place, you'll likely scribble some notes down about things you've learned and what new clues could tell you.
You also have an assistant you can call to give you information about companies mentioned or to look up an address. You've also got an information specialist you can pay with your advance that will try to find out where people that don't want to be found are and whatnot.
You really feel like you're actually doing detective work. It's awesome and doesn't get much credit but is super worth a playthrough. I took actual notes on paper and would even take the note pad with me to work to contemplate some stuff. You'll take about two or three days for the game. I think I took somewhere around 12 hours total, maybe less. I ended up with a dozen notepad pages of stuff that will never make sense to anyone but me and satisfied from a totally new gameplay experience.
In the first few games you absolutely had to do that stuff. No way around it. It's actually pretty chill if you like that kinda thing.
One of my favourite DOS games in that regard is Mean Streets, the first Tex Murphy game. It's part flight simulator, really. You MUST take notes of names of people, locations and their coordinates, things to ask for and who stand in what relation to other people. So while you're letting the autopilot fly you to your next place, you'll likely scribble some notes down about things you've learned and what new clues could tell you.
You also have an assistant you can call to give you information about companies mentioned or to look up an address. You've also got an information specialist you can pay with your advance that will try to find out where people that don't want to be found are and whatnot.
You really feel like you're actually doing detective work. It's awesome and doesn't get much credit but is super worth a playthrough. I took actual notes on paper and would even take the note pad with me to work to contemplate some stuff. You'll take about two or three days for the game. I think I took somewhere around 12 hours total, maybe less. I ended up with a dozen notepad pages of stuff that will never make sense to anyone but me and satisfied from a totally new gameplay experience.
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Those screenshots give me flashbacks to Realms of Arkania. Then again this was kind of a standard layout for the time.
At least it's not as bad as during the Gold Box days, where memory was so precious that they printed most of the story bits in the manual.Kugelfisch wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 3:40 pmMemory was precious on floppies so they kept text as short as possible wherever they could. It's really still designed largely as a game you take notes yourself for. Ideally, you'll also map it out because the automap isn't exactly the greatest thing either.
In the first few games you absolutely had to do that stuff. No way around it. It's actually pretty chill if you like that kinda thing.
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I still think that's fine, though. It's a bit like a chose your own adventure book like that and the fact that they put in false stuff just to mess with people who tried to just read up the story was hilarious.VoiceOfReasonPast wrote: ↑Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:02 pmAt least it's not as bad as during the Gold Box days, where memory was so precious that they printed most of the story bits in the manual.
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Man I used to play the shit out of ravenloft and ravenloft 2 for dos. Anyone got any games like that? I'd like to play them.
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I have those in my backlog but haven't played them yet. From the look of it, Eye of the Beholder may be something like that.
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Ravenloft are way better than eye, for instance you're not stuck in a cavern the whole time, you can also do some interacting with people, and you can move around and employ a bit more tactics then clicking on the enemy. The game hasn't aged well sadly.
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