Stefan Molyneux is kind of an idiot

[rabidtictac]

His cult-like anarchist mindset always steered me the wrong way. Needs to see a psychiatrist.

His mindset seems cultlike because Stephan has been trying to set himself up as the head of his own cult for a long-ass time. Everything is us vs them, "against me," you parse what he talks about and the way he talks about it and shit is straight out of Cult 101. He wants an audience that will pay all his billth for him and be happy to let him ramble about whatever retarded bullshit he thinks is true, all while calling himself the new Socrates 2.0 Internet Edition.

I'll read Poonoo's long political sperge some other time when I'm up to it. Ancaps are idiots who believe in shit that would never work. Libertarians are naive and think people can all play nicely together without being forced to behave. They're utopians, just like the ancaps, anarchists, etc. But liberals are globalist cunts who think the way that they think, feel and do shit should be the only way anyone should ever think, feel or do shit. (Christian) Conservatives are generally the same, but they use religion to rationalize their attempt to force other people to live as they do, whereas the libshits use literal morality police and moral blackmail.

And I float smugly above all of mankind, secure in the knowledge that I have never, at any time, believed in anything stupid.

Oh and the reason utopian societies can never work and will never work is the same general reason for so many wars: competition over resources. You can only have a utopian society when nobody wants or needs anything.

[VoiceOfReasonPast]

I think the only way a utopia could work if we manage to hit post-scarcity shenanigans through whatever means, and replace everyone in power with AIs.

[rabidtictac]

Star Trek tries to handwave it by getting rid of resource scarcity entirely, but even then it doesn't work IN A FICTIONAL PRETEND SHOW. By the time TNG and especially DS9 roll around, there are all kinds of conflicts between cultures and groups. And the post-scarcity promise is only a dream for some federation citizens. The whole reason for the Maquis situation is competition over resources.

Ancaps honestly think they can make something work that doesn't play out well even in fiction. That's why they're dumb. World peace is a nice dream, but it's only a dream because the concept of "world peace" makes no fucking sense. Peace compared to who? Measured by what metric? What's "peace" even mean? There are all kinds of ways of fucking someone over without dropping a nuke on them, and the same is true of groups of people vs other groups. I think the concept may be malformed in the first place, which leads to a mistaken understanding (ie utopian bullshit) of what people want to achieve with their little philosophy fanfics.

Create a world that can support an infinite number of humans for an infinite period of time, allowing for infinite variability in natural birth and death rates and infinite availability of food, tools, shelter and reproductive opportunity, and then we can talk about the non-aggression principle.

[Charlar]

Star Trek tries to handwave it by getting rid of resource scarcity entirely, but even then it doesn't work IN A FICTIONAL PRETEND SHOW. By the time TNG and especially DS9 roll around, there are all kinds of conflicts between cultures and groups. And the post-scarcity promise is only a dream for some federation citizens. The whole reason for the Maquis situation is competition over resources.

Ancaps honestly think they can make something work that doesn't play out well even in fiction. That's why they're dumb. World peace is a nice dream, but it's only a dream because the concept of "world peace" makes no fucking sense. Peace compared to who? Measured by what metric? What's "peace" even mean? There are all kinds of ways of fucking someone over without dropping a nuke on them, and the same is true of groups of people vs other groups. I think the concept may be malformed in the first place, which leads to a mistaken understanding (ie utopian bullshit) of what people want to achieve with their little philosophy fanfics.

Create a world that can support an infinite number of humans for an infinite period of time, allowing for infinite variability in natural birth and death rates and infinite availability of food, tools, shelter and reproductive opportunity, and then we can talk about the non-aggression principle.

Wait, Star Trek is ancap? I thought it was socialist/communist or something like that?

[GodsGift]

Star Trek tries to handwave it by getting rid of resource scarcity entirely, but even then it doesn't work IN A FICTIONAL PRETEND SHOW. By the time TNG and especially DS9 roll around, there are all kinds of conflicts between cultures and groups. And the post-scarcity promise is only a dream for some federation citizens. The whole reason for the Maquis situation is competition over resources.

Ancaps honestly think they can make something work that doesn't play out well even in fiction. That's why they're dumb. World peace is a nice dream, but it's only a dream because the concept of "world peace" makes no fucking sense. Peace compared to who? Measured by what metric? What's "peace" even mean? There are all kinds of ways of fucking someone over without dropping a nuke on them, and the same is true of groups of people vs other groups. I think the concept may be malformed in the first place, which leads to a mistaken understanding (ie utopian bullshit) of what people want to achieve with their little philosophy fanfics.

Create a world that can support an infinite number of humans for an infinite period of time, allowing for infinite variability in natural birth and death rates and infinite availability of food, tools, shelter and reproductive opportunity, and then we can talk about the non-aggression principle.

Wait, Star Trek is ancap? I thought it was socialist/communist or something like that?

I think he was just saying that the idea of a peaceful utopian society doesn't even work well there. Not that it's ancap necessarily

[CommieCatGirl]

I kind of like Stefan, but if I want to see something that's 95% condemnations of other people's behavior, I'll stick to reading my own posts.

[wildmage]

There's a pretty simple explanation:
-Ancap is the independent ending in New Vegas where you don't get the support of all tribes of the Mojave.
-Libertarian is the House ending, with all the tribes behind your back and working on a way to colonize Mars.

[Charlar]

There's a pretty simple explanation:
-Ancap is the independent ending in New Vegas where you don't get the support of all tribes of the Mojave.
-Libertarian is the House ending, with all the tribes behind your back and working on a way to colonize Mars.

What about the rest of the endings? I'm genuinely curious

[wildmage]

There's a pretty simple explanation:
-Ancap is the independent ending in New Vegas where you don't get the support of all tribes of the Mojave.
-Libertarian is the House ending, with all the tribes behind your back and working on a way to colonize Mars.

What about the rest of the endings? I'm genuinely curious

NCR was supposed to be authoritarian left while Caesar was to be authoritatian right but there were 11th hour changes that decided to make Caesar the defacto bad guys, evul cis stormtroppers that act like a generic evil empire (since we don't get to see the cut content beyond the Colorado river or get the Caesar follower) while the NCR are the kind-of military force that did a bad thing once to some guys that no-one remember but which is staffed by multi-ethnic, multi-gendered patriotic soldiers that are either lawful good or neutral good which will fight for the good of all the people in the Mojave!

As you can see, choosing the cartoony factions made all the games pretty boring, pretty fast.

[VoiceOfReasonPast]

Video games with cringy political shit are the best. Can't wait till Monster Hunter does something like that.