by veris leta facies » Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:43 pm
Poonoo wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:31 am
So Finnish politicians want to turn their country into Sweden. Veris, how accurate is this?
Aaa, that's a long video and one heavy ass question to answer thoroughly, but OK..
After the second world war Finland was very poor, mostly agrarian country whereas Sweden was rich and comparatively advanced in industry. During the years of economic growth and industrialization Finland adopted the Nordic model and Swedish values and beliefs, Sweden was something to look up as a role model and that was only natural development, considering the fact that Finland was hundreds of years under the rule of Sweden, many our administrative structures were built based on Swedish model (legislation, local government, relationship between Evangelical Lutheran church and state etc.), there's an old saying here: "The way of Sweden is our way".
So, Swedish foreign policy impact on Finland is and has been huge over the years in both good and bad. It has mainly served us well, but it has also caused drawbacks, following their disastrous refugee policy is an obvious example, but one not-so-obvious is Finland staying out of Nato. IMO Finland should apply for Nato membership asap, but, staying obedient to our paragon country, that won't happen until Sweden applies for one. Let me tell you, the day Sweden puts the application in, Finland will do the same.
Swedish teens interviewed at the beginning of the video.. that doesn't give a true picture at all what an average Swedish thinks about Finland and Finns, that's just a typical city hipsterism where young people in a capital city view themselves as more educated, civilized and generally better people than people living in smaller cities or towns. The less intelligent they are the more certain they are they're something exceptional due to the geographic location of their residence. We also have plenty of this BS elitism amongst our capital city youngsters, I call that city hillbillyism, usually it isn't that blunt, but more in between the lines.
But besides that (cherry-picking anti-Finn opinions of a handful of Swedish and giving a false view of Swedish-Finn relations) it's very accurate. Rape has been skyrocketing since the 2015 refugee wave, gang rapes were a non-existent phenomenon prior that and within the Helsinki metropolitan area foreigners were responsible for most of the rapes last year, not only proportionally, but also in absolute numbers (the proportion of foreigners in the population of the area was less than 13%, it's huge that group so small commits more than 50% of regional sex crime).
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So Finnish politicians want to turn their country into Sweden. Veris, how accurate is this?
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Aaa, that's a long video and one heavy ass question to answer thoroughly, but OK..
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After the second world war Finland was very poor, mostly agrarian country whereas Sweden was rich and comparatively advanced in industry. During the years of economic growth and industrialization Finland adopted the Nordic model and Swedish values and beliefs, Sweden was something to look up as a role model and that was only natural development, considering the fact that Finland was hundreds of years under the rule of Sweden, many our administrative structures were built based on Swedish model (legislation, local government, relationship between Evangelical Lutheran church and state etc.), there's an old saying here: "The way of Sweden is our way".
So, Swedish foreign policy impact on Finland is and has been huge over the years in both good and bad. It has mainly served us well, but it has also caused drawbacks, following their disastrous refugee policy is an obvious example, but one not-so-obvious is Finland staying out of Nato. IMO Finland should apply for Nato membership asap, but, staying obedient to our paragon country, that won't happen until Sweden applies for one. Let me tell you, the day Sweden puts the application in, Finland will do the same.
Swedish teens interviewed at the beginning of the video.. that doesn't give a true picture at all what an average Swedish thinks about Finland and Finns, that's just a typical city hipsterism where young people in a capital city view themselves as more educated, civilized and generally better people than people living in smaller cities or towns. The less intelligent they are the more certain they are they're something exceptional due to the geographic location of their residence. We also have plenty of this BS elitism amongst our capital city youngsters, I call that city hillbillyism, usually it isn't that blunt, but more in between the lines.
But besides that (cherry-picking anti-Finn opinions of a handful of Swedish and giving a false view of Swedish-Finn relations) it's very accurate. Rape has been skyrocketing since the 2015 refugee wave, gang rapes were a non-existent phenomenon prior that and within the Helsinki metropolitan area foreigners were responsible for most of the rapes last year, not only proportionally, but also in absolute numbers (the proportion of foreigners in the population of the area was less than 13%, it's huge that group so small commits more than 50% of regional sex crime).
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