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Re: Movieblob

by Le Redditeur » Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:08 pm

>using capeshit garbage as measurement of your own worth
Bravo, women.

Re: Movieblob

by Guest » Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:22 pm

VoiceOfReasonPast wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:54 pm
It is pretty suspicious how all these soyboys are celebrating this sausage fest of a shared universe. Makes ya think.

Also odd that the current gold standard for a capeshit lady character arc is Wonder Woman, and hers was "I just realized that humans can be assholes".
Realizing and accepting that humans can be assholes instead of blaming one big bad boogieman for all the world's problems (hmm, how might that apply to our time in a most unwoke way...). It's an arc. Not a great arc, especially since Aries being the main villain anyway severely undermines it, but an arc. Also Gal Gadot is better looking and more charismatic than Brie Larson, despite not being a great actor.

In this day and age of making stronk female characters because wahmen are amazing and depicting them realistically, different from men with different strengths and weaknesses (or even HAVING weaknesses) is offensive, passable is the new great

Re: Movieblob

by VoiceOfReasonPast » Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:54 pm

It is pretty suspicious how all these soyboys are celebrating this sausage fest of a shared universe. Makes ya think.

Also odd that the current gold standard for a capeshit lady character arc is Wonder Woman, and hers was "I just realized that humans can be assholes".

Re: Movieblob

by Guest » Mon Mar 18, 2019 12:23 pm

I disagree I don’t think even in 2019 Marvel would’ve marketed the film they way they did if they casted a likeable or more attractive actress. Saying that though for all their virtue signalling they didn’t have the balls to relese a female led superhero film till the very end so if it did end up flopping Avengers is out the next month and will make billions anyway.

Re: Movieblob

by Keith Chegwin » Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:38 am

Oengae wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:29 am
If it was made pre-Current Year she would have had better characterization than "stronk wammen who don't need no man"
No she wouldn't. The Tomb Raider remake came out around that time, that was stronk wahmen who don't need no man. Mary Sues have been around for a long time
Oengae wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:29 am
and the critics would still be somewhat reliable, not soy'd out goons
No they wouldn't. They've been soyed out goons for a long time. You're only just noticing.

The only difference is that people wouldn't be buying into this shit. Of the two original MCU movies, the Hulk didn't do that well financially and Captain Marvel isn't exactly a known quantity. In addition getting an attractive woman to play the lead role would have turned off the presumable target audience of embittered feminist cunts who hate any woman more attractive than they are.

Re: Movieblob

by Oengae » Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:29 am

If it was made pre-Current Year she would have had better characterization than "stronk wammen who don't need no man" and the critics would still be somewhat reliable, not soy'd out goons

Re: Movieblob

by Keith Chegwin » Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:30 pm

TheManWithNoPlan wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:12 pm
If a film about Iron Man starring a has been, junkie, midget could be big success in 2008 a Captain Marvel film probably starring Scarlett Johnsson would've too.
So, let me get this straight: you think they should've done the 'muh feminism' movie in 2008? Before Obama? With an attractive actress? When she was attractive? And you think this would have done well?

Re: Movieblob

by TheManWithNoPlan » Sat Mar 16, 2019 4:12 pm

VoiceOfReasonPast wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:24 pm
You don't need no friggin' character arc if you show that sexism is bad.
TheManWithNoPlan wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:53 am
It’s a film that if they were gonna do it should’ve been the first film in the series not the second to last.
But then the MCU would've died before it even got started.
If a film about Iron Man starring a has been, junkie, midget could be big success in 2008 a Captain Marvel film probably starring Scarlett Johnsson would've too.

Re: Movieblob

by rpgworm » Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:46 pm

Captain Marvel is such a bizarre movie. Not the interesting kind, but by watching it you can clearly tell they had planned this arc with the main character for a journey of self discovery and regaining her identity and even set charactes like Jude Law's to be the ones manipulating and keeping Carol down so it's obvious that when she's is by her own and uncovering her past, she changes and becomes the person she once was or better.

But for that to work, the main character needs to be very distinctive between who they were and what the've become, and show moments of weakness and self doubt. Fuck, Jason Bourne is a demigod badass spy that can do anything, but they at least showed him having moments of weakness and screw ups.

But Captain Marvel is the same person regardless, the same level headed competent ass kicker that can do anything. Why is that? for feminism? But wouldn't be a more convincing girl power message if she went from submisse to defiant throughout the movie? I don't get it, and I feel that is what the screen writter had in mind but were told to change.

I say that because it's the same shit in the comics. Marvel wants to have their wonder woman (not just for the movies, but as a all around brand), but aside from the famous female X-men (Storm, Jean Grey, Rogue, etc) they got nothing. So it's understandable they are pushing Carol Danvers but since then she always come off as off putting, pushy and some times unreasonable (like in Civil War 2).

You can argue feminism and all that "SJW" stuff, but it is really weird the way they go over this, feels almost like a caricature of a "strong female protagonist" than a earnest character.

And worst of all? Carol Danvers was fine as Miss Marvel. Sure, she was always a "C" lister, and never all that interesting, but she was the leader of the avengers for a long time, and had some good stories like trying to help a kid who could bring storybooks to life but his imagination was getting out of control, and some relatable personality traits, like insecurity and the constant need to prove herself.

I get why they had to change the name and the costume , I liked the cheesecake but whatever, but I never got why they had to change her character when they already had one that could work... Same with the movie...

Re: Movieblob

by Rapeculture » Sat Mar 16, 2019 12:45 pm

A movie about a stronk independent wahmen who don't need no man. Of course the writers would be a couple of ugly feminist cunts.

Glad to be done with capeshit.

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